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posted by janrinok on Thursday November 17 2016, @07:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the what-is-your-vote-worth? dept.

Senator Boxer Introduces Bill to Eliminate Electoral College

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Senator-Boxer-to-Introduce-Bill-to-Eliminate-Electoral-College--401314945.html

"This is the only office in the land where you can get more votes and still lose the presidency," Boxer said in a statement. "The Electoral College is an outdated, undemocratic system that does not reflect our modern society, and it needs to change immediately. Every American should be guaranteed that their vote counts."

[...] "When all the ballots are counted, Hillary Clinton will have won the popular vote by a margin that could exceed two million votes, and she is on track to have received more votes than any other presidential candidate in history except Barack Obama," Boxer said.

Trump will be the fifth president in U.S. history to win the election despite losing the popular vote. George W. Bush won the most recent such election, in 2000.

Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3wLQz-LgrM


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  • (Score: 2) by edIII on Friday November 18 2016, @05:05AM

    by edIII (791) on Friday November 18 2016, @05:05AM (#428671)

    That irony is not lost on me. Which is why this Revolution is occurring from the ground up. It's well beyond the ability of anybody like Soros to steer either. The moment his ilk would attempt to bring their corruption instead of the incumbent corruption, Soros would find that the Revolution will find him. Just like all the others.

    I don't recall the guillotines of France caring about such distinctions.

    As for the funding? That seems to be happening around $15-$30 at a time on average, from the people dwelling on the ground. We don't need Soros' money to do this. We don't need much money at all. All we need is each other, a willingness to accomplish our objectives, and rubber to road so to speak.

    The key ingredient of motivation was provided by Trump and the other white nationalists actually succeeding in getting one step away from tearing down all the work of labor and progressives over the last 100 years.

    I've got news for you. You wouldn't have wanted to live in 1900's America. It was an even worse environment than we have now for labor, precisely because of those progressive accomplishments.

    You're damn right we're all being manipulated by those in power and the wealthy. We're tired of it, and it will stop. Either by We the People, or because we failed and freedom died.

    Guess what is the most frightening thing to those in power? All of us caring about the same thing, at the same time, and organizing to do something about it. Those walls to our Freedom of Assembly will be rent asunder, and we will rise.

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  • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Friday November 18 2016, @05:22AM

    by Reziac (2489) on Friday November 18 2016, @05:22AM (#428677) Homepage

    [scratching head] I *did* live in 1900s America. Tho I suspect you mean pre-WW2. Okay, I'm not *that* old...

    There is no case where a revolution didn't end in blood, and with a worse crowd taking over... generally with the revolution's founders going under the blade. Be careful what you wish for. Tho it seems you wish for the French Terror.

    (Note that the American Revolution was actually an insurrection, not a revolution.)

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    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday November 18 2016, @01:03PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday November 18 2016, @01:03PM (#428806) Journal

      That's mostly true, but not entirely true. India's successful peaceful rebellion against British rule, and Czechoslovakia's Velvet Revolution are a couple notable exceptions. Otpor's successful campaign to depose Milosevic in Serbia is another.

      Revolutions happen because the status quo cannot continue. The chance of a successful, prosperous post-revolution is better if violence can be avoided, because you're right about worse crowds taking over if the revolution was bloody. But if the defenders of the status quo make it impossible to effect change peacefully, then violence is inevitable.

      For that reason I recommend the keepers of this status quo recognize this election result as the rebellion it is, and not try to co-opt and subvert it, or they will go to the guillotine.

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      • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Friday November 18 2016, @02:21PM

        by Reziac (2489) on Friday November 18 2016, @02:21PM (#428825) Homepage

        Haha, yes, I like your conclusion :D

        Tho I still think it's a bit ...undictionary... to call a mass shift in popular opinion and its associated voting behavior a "revolution", even if it does depose a government.

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