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posted by janrinok on Saturday November 19 2016, @04:12PM   Printer-friendly
from the statistics-or-lies? dept.

Scott Alexander gives a great breakdown of Trump and how the portrayal of him as being "openly white supremacist" is probably (likely) wrong.

I stick to my thesis from October 2015. There is no evidence that Donald Trump is more racist than any past Republican candidate (or any other 70 year old white guy, for that matter). All this stuff about how he's "the candidate of the KKK" and "the vanguard of a new white supremacist movement" is made up. It's a catastrophic distraction from the dozens of other undeniable problems with Trump that could have convinced voters to abandon him. That it came to dominate the election cycle should be considered a horrifying indictment of our political discourse, in the same way that it would be a horrifying indictment of our political discourse if the entire Republican campaign had been based around the theory that Hillary Clinton was a secret Satanist. Yes, calling Romney a racist was crying wolf. But you are still crying wolf.

I avoided pushing this point any more since last October because I didn't want to look like I was supporting Trump, or accidentally convince anyone else to support Trump. But since we're past the point where that matters any more, I want to present my case.

He further states: "I realize that all of this is going to make me sound like a crazy person and put me completely at odds with every respectable thinker in the media, but luckily, being a crazy person at odds with every respectable thinker in the media has been a pretty good ticket to predictive accuracy lately, so whatever."

So do his claims hold up under scrutiny, is he manipulating the figures, or is he just a 'crazy person' ?


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by bradley13 on Saturday November 19 2016, @07:12PM

    by bradley13 (3053) on Saturday November 19 2016, @07:12PM (#429551) Homepage Journal

    Free exercise of religion, and freedom of conscience, are fundamental core American values

    Well, no. Just as an example: if your religion requires you to practice cannibalism, you will find your freedom rather severely restricted.

    The problem with Islam, or at least the branches of it that concern us, is this: They believe that theirs is the only valid religion, and that they are commanded to convert or slay everyone else (do note: this includes other muslims). Islam (by which I mean this fundamentalist branch of the muslim faith), is incompatible with Western values. Simple self-preservation requires that we ban this barbaric ideology. Adherents are welcome to live out their lives in their own countries, but they have no place in ours.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Arik on Saturday November 19 2016, @07:18PM

    by Arik (4543) on Saturday November 19 2016, @07:18PM (#429555) Journal
    "Islam (by which I mean this fundamentalist branch of the muslim faith)"

    People (by which I mean this one really rude guy at work)...

    The mind boggles. If you don't mean Islam then quit saying Islam.

    The word you are looking for is Wahhabism.
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    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 19 2016, @10:15PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 19 2016, @10:15PM (#429647)

      ...and it's worth mentioning that the chief purveyor of that radical brand of Islam is valued USA.gov "ally"[1] Saudi Arabia (think: religious police).

      [1] This "ally" also finances IS/ISIL/ISIS/Daesch.

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