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posted by n1 on Saturday November 19 2016, @11:52PM   Printer-friendly
from the so-when-does-real-news-become-fake-news dept.

Earlier this week Google announced that its advertising tools will soon be closed to websites that promote fake news, a policy that could cut off revenue streams for publications that peddle hoaxes on platforms like Facebook.

The Verge reports:

The decision comes at a critical time for the tech industry, whose key players have come under fire for not taking neccesary steps to prevent fake news from proliferating across the web during the 2016 US election. It's thought that, given the viral aspects of fake news, social networks and search engines were gamed by partisan bad actors intending to influence the outcome of the race.

What constitutes 'fake' news?
Who decides what is 'fake'?
Who is a 'partisan bad actor'?


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @12:57AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @12:57AM (#429728)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyS3Ghevf2I [youtube.com]

    but yeah, basically anything even remotely right-leaning that goes against their narrative is going to get blocked. I really enjoy watching this blatant fascism unfold from a generation of people who were never taught to be a good loser because they were told right from the start they were special snowflakes and everybody was a winner. PC culture is fucking awful.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @01:30AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @01:30AM (#429744)

    Yeah, PJW has progressed from an eyelinered loon ranting about chemtrails to a fairly well rounded political commentator and agitator. He's a star who called it exactly on the US presidential race and is actually belittled by his association with Alex Jones. What people fail to understand is that if the guy had been born just a few years he'd identify as left wing. In fact the (real) left are completely dismissive of identity politics [spiked-online.com] and social marxism. [consortiumnews.com]

    We saw this with gamergate though, there should be little surprise to readers here.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @02:03AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @02:03AM (#429752)

      agreed, Alex Jones really does drag PJW down a lot, which is why I only follow him and not the whole of infowars.

      the thing though that I really hate is how there is so much contempt for bipartisanship by the MSM, but I suppose that's mostly due to the cultural marxists that control it, along with the advertisers who fuel it. everything has to be "extreme" to generate any emotion now. hell I wouldn't be surprised if in the near future we're holding some battle-royale type thing to decide the winner of an election. though I suppose even that wouldn't be as bad as it is now, at least there could be some credibility and campaign funding wouldn't gain you any advantages.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @03:12AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @03:12AM (#429771)

        > cultural marxists

        No wonder you guys are treated to so contemptuously
        You are only reaping what you sow
        Enjoy the taste of those tears while you can

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @09:20AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @09:20AM (#429851)

          there is no other word best suited to describe them.

        • (Score: 2) by SanityCheck on Sunday November 20 2016, @03:51PM

          by SanityCheck (5190) on Sunday November 20 2016, @03:51PM (#429925)

          I have to agree with him thou, "cultural marxist" is actually very very fitting from what I been able to gather. It is insane the lengths to which the narrative has gone, and everything we see now is the society convulsing after realizing it swallowed this poison. Shit even I started thinking some social equality is good, and then the slippery slope started and now I'm on the total opposite. They scared the shit out of me and turned me into a meritocrat now that I see where the "cultural marxists" will take their arguments once they have their foot in the door.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @04:29AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @04:29AM (#429800)

        PJW? WTF PJW est? SJW en alia nomen? Cui est "Alex Jones"?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @11:40AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @11:40AM (#429862)

          Bellatores Pajama.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @03:02AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @03:02AM (#429767)

    You're an idiot to think it is PC culture and "everyone is special" which is the problem. You just play into the stereotype which promotes this kind of fascism.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @03:04AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @03:04AM (#429768)

      oh really now? because last I remember, the losers of an election didn't go outside and start destroying their own fucking neighborhoods when they lost in the past, what else could explain that?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @05:33PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @05:33PM (#429960)

        because last I remember, the losers of an election didn't go outside and start destroying their own fucking neighborhoods when they lost in the past

        O rly? [revelist.com]
        Nice selective memory you've got there. [thehill.com]

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 21 2016, @12:53AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 21 2016, @12:53AM (#430251)

          yeah, totally dude. because the Right were physically assaulting blacks en-mass for voting Obama in 2008, burning down their own neighborhoods and other disgusting acts, all while the media cheered them. /s

          now, I'm not saying there weren't a few outliers, but turn the tables, and actually have whites physically attacking blacks, and its a hate crime, but when its blacks attacking whites, its not racism, it's just anti-racism and anti-oppression, or whatever else the MSM want to promote it as to keep a divide among the populace.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday November 20 2016, @06:11AM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday November 20 2016, @06:11AM (#429824) Homepage

      Political correctness is not a bad thing as it was originally intended, which is to prevent the use of phrases like "Chinese fire-drill."

      The problem with the progressives and PC is what is the problem with is with damn-near every movement which goes to shit -- being co-opted by extremists who thrive on division by exacerbating non-issues and tearing at the scabs which are there.

      Before it was merely annoying. Now, huge interests which reach far beyond any one nation are stoking discord in America, attempting a color revolution. Modern PC is not about saving feelings from being hurt, rather, it is a means to stifle debate and shout down or otherwise intimidate reasonable and alternate points of view with hyperbolic comparisons. It is an indirect means of censorship though compulsory self-censorship, and, more disturbingly, has advanced into violence against those with alternate viewpoints.

      The good news is that these "movements" are planned by those who are out of touch with reality, and so cannot predict accurately if their movements will succeed. Additionally, since the movements are hypocritical and illogical (racism is the most evil thing in the world, but racism against White people is good) they will have the effect of pushing the moderates away from them.

      The bad news is that the movements are well-entrenched in academia and the media and the globalists are doubling-down in their efforts of censorship and intimidation rather than accept defeat. What you experienced during the election was not even close to their ultimate strength or final form -- which means that those in favor of liberty and free speech are potentially facing a larger battle.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @07:32AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @07:32AM (#429842)

        I think it is actually the start of the end.

        It's much like when a protest starts and people gather only to realize they aren't the only ones pissed off; Trump's election is the start of dismantling the excesses of the left, and if they're not careful, being obliterated from political life for a decade or more.

        Google can afford to be partisan now, but 8 years from now? Time will tell.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday November 20 2016, @07:50AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 20 2016, @07:50AM (#429844) Journal
          I'll believe it when I see it. There's been a lot of blowhards prophesying the end of various political factions and the major parties. Hasn't happened yet. After Dubya left and subsequent political trouncing in the beginning of 2009, the Republicans were licking their wounds. Yet here we are a mere eight years later with a total reversal of that situation.
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @08:00AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @08:00AM (#429846)

            This isn't about Republicans per se, but the strident PC aspects of the left.

            The Republicans can lose everything tomorrow and it won't matter to the people who are sick to death of the left. They know now they have the political clout to even get Trump elected, and that is the death knell of PC culture.

            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday November 20 2016, @04:04PM

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 20 2016, @04:04PM (#429931) Journal

              The Republicans can lose everything tomorrow and it won't matter to the people who are sick to death of the left. They know now they have the political clout to even get Trump elected, and that is the death knell of PC culture.

              Well, the other side might not go gently into that dear night. And they have a stronghold in academia which probably isn't going away any decade soon.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @05:49PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @05:49PM (#429966)

    FFS if you make these issues out to be about left vs right, you're part of the problem! Authoritarianism is the problem and the left and right both are in love with it.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @08:31PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 20 2016, @08:31PM (#430056)

    I had to stop watching and close the window when the narrator said that occupy wallstreet was "extreme left liberal media" or something to that effect.

    The guy is a right wing blowhard upset that he behaves like the lady he is whining about.

    She just provided the list of "approved" sites without asking him first. He was right in that there should be no one to decide who makes the list unless they are netural; and proceeds to describe without irony how it cannot be done as he lists out the sites he doesn't like.