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posted by n1 on Wednesday November 23 2016, @12:31PM   Printer-friendly
from the hat-tip dept.

The Fedora Project is pleased to announce the immediate availability of Fedora 25, the next big step [on] our journey into the containerized, modular future!

Fedora is a global community that works together to lead the advancement of free and open source software. As part of the community's mission the project delivers three editions, each one a free, Linux-based operating system tailored to meet specific use cases: Fedora 25 Atomic Host, Fedora 25 Server, and Fedora 25 Workstation.

Each edition is built from a common set of base packages, which form the foundation of the Fedora operating system. As with all new versions of Fedora, Fedora 25 provides many bug fixes and tweaks to these underlying components, as well as new and enhanced packages, including:

  • Docker 1.12 for building and running containerized applications
  • Node.js 6.9.1, the latest version of the popular server-side JavaScript engine
  • Support for Rust, a faster and more stable system programming language
  • Multiple Python versions — 2.6, 2.7, 3.3, 3.4 and 3.5 — to help run test suites across several Python configurations, as well as PyPy, PyPy3, and Jython

You can get Fedora 25 from getfedora.org. It is shipping with the Linux 4.8 kernel. The default environment is Gnome 3.22 with the Wayland display server. I did a DNF upgrade from release 24 and tested it with my Intel and Radeon setup and everything has just worked out of the box. If you aren't a fan of Gnome, there are other Desktop Environments available, called Spins. Enjoy!


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by r1348 on Wednesday November 23 2016, @01:17PM

    by r1348 (5988) on Wednesday November 23 2016, @01:17PM (#431802)

    You did not mention the biggest change of Fedora 25: Wayland by default in the Workstation spin.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by KritonK on Wednesday November 23 2016, @01:35PM

    by KritonK (465) on Wednesday November 23 2016, @01:35PM (#431806)

    Sort of.

    I already updated to Fedora 25 at home and on a virtualbox VM.

    On the home machine, with a GeForce 9600 graphics card and the nouveau driver (the legacy nVidia driver, which worked fine under Fedora 24, does not work under Fedora 25) I tried the "plasma (wayland)" entry in the login screen, but it led me back to the login screen. The plain "plasma" entry works. Wayland may or may not work with gnome, but I am not going to switch to gnome to find out.

    On the virtualbox machine, there isn't even a "plasma (wayland)" entry. I don't know if this is related to te fact that the X11 guest extensions to not install, because Fedora 25 uses a pre-release version of X11.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Celestial on Wednesday November 23 2016, @03:12PM

      by Celestial (4891) on Wednesday November 23 2016, @03:12PM (#431852) Journal

      IIRC, I believe Wayland is disabled in Fedora 25 if you're using a Nvidia GPU and the binary blob Nvidia video card driver. Ahh, yep.

      We will change GDM to use wayland by default for GNOME. The code will automatically fall back to Xorg in cases where wayland is unavailable (like nvidia).

      Considering how many computers use Nvidia video cards, I'd really question if Wayland is the actual default.

      • (Score: 2) by KritonK on Wednesday November 23 2016, @06:59PM

        by KritonK (465) on Wednesday November 23 2016, @06:59PM (#432011)

        Like I said, one system used the nouveau driver and one the virtualbox driver.

        Considering that the majority of users have an nVidia, AMD, Intel, or VirtualBox display, that the nVidia driver usually does not work out of the box with new releases of Fedora, and that the virtualbox X11 extensions often don't work out of the box with new releases of Fedora, because Red Hat thinks it is fine to release an operating system with a pre-release version of X11, I would question whether having a working system is the default, never mind Wayland!

        Looking for patches to the nVidia driver and/or switching to nouveau, until a new version of the nVidia driver is released, seems to be the first thing I always do when I upgrade Fedora, as I am impatient to upgrade. I was, however, surprised, that I couldn't run Wayland with nouveau, which is supposed to be the driver recommended by Red Hat.

  • (Score: 2) by tynin on Wednesday November 23 2016, @04:10PM

    by tynin (2013) on Wednesday November 23 2016, @04:10PM (#431880) Journal

    The default environment is Gnome 3.22 with the Wayland display server.

  • (Score: 2) by Desler on Wednesday November 23 2016, @05:53PM

    by Desler (880) on Wednesday November 23 2016, @05:53PM (#431972)

    Yes, it did.

    The default environment is Gnome 3.22 with the Wayland display server.

    Maybe you should have read the entire submission?