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posted by on Wednesday November 23 2016, @03:48PM   Printer-friendly
from the as-not-seen-on-tv dept.

Authorities used rubber-coated steel bullets, concussion grenades, tear gas, and water cannons against unarmed protesters near the Dakota Access oil pipeline in 26°F (-3°C) temperatures over the weekend.

Indian Country Today reports

"We have seen four gunshot wounds, three of them to the face and head", said Leland Brenholt, a volunteer medic.

[...]400 protesters, or "water protectors", attempted to dismantle a police-enforced barricade on State Highway 1806.

[...]"Water protectors are done with the military-style barricades. We are done with the floodlights and the armored military trucks. We are are done with it!" declared organizer, Dallas Goldtooth in a mid-evening Facebook post.

Their action was met with the same militarized response that the Morton County Sheriff's Department has demonstrated on protesters for weeks: the use of armored trucks, less-than-lethal ammunition, tear-gas, mace, and on this below-freezing night, water cannons.

[...]Reports from a coalition of advocacy groups near Standing Rock report hundreds of water protectors were receiving treatment for contamination by tear gas, hypothermia, and blunt traumas as a result of rubber bullets. One person, an elder, was reportedly revived after suffering cardiac arrest, organizers said.

"As medical professionals, we are concerned for the real risk of loss of life due to severe hypothermia under these conditions," read a statement from the Standing Rock Medic and Healer Council.

A more measured take is available from the AP.


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  • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Wednesday November 23 2016, @09:27PM

    by meustrus (4961) on Wednesday November 23 2016, @09:27PM (#432128)

    Call me crazy, but the alternative I had in mind was not letting people get rich and powerful enough to control the government or hire private militaries.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 23 2016, @11:28PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 23 2016, @11:28PM (#432200)

    > not letting people get rich and powerful

    And how do you propose to do that without a big government?
    Or have you forgotten the thousands of years of small government?

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 24 2016, @12:16AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 24 2016, @12:16AM (#432215)

      Don't buy their products.
      Look for goods produced by and sold by operations that are 100 percent worker-owned.

      Additionally, don't contribute your labor to the companies of the 1 Percent and don't knuckle-under to their rules which allow **them** to skim off all the profit while *you* do all the work .
      Start your own company.
      Find like-minded people and form a worker-owned cooperative.
      Don't give away your profits to people who do not part of the production process.

      without a big government?

      It's pathetic that you can't break out of the top-down Authoritarian mindset and move on to the People Power paradigm.

      -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 24 2016, @02:37AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 24 2016, @02:37AM (#432233)

        When in the history of mankind has that ever worked?

        You are arguing for what is essentially organized action in resisting the economics of efficiency of scale.
        That kind of organization is a hop, skip and a jump away from a "top-down authoritarian mindset."

        You want to fight organized power with organized power and not have that power organized into anything else.
        That's just wishful thinking.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 24 2016, @05:25AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 24 2016, @05:25AM (#432289)

          People start new companies all the time.
          Clearly, not you.
          In Emilia-Romagna, at last count, there were 8100 (Socialist) worker-owned operations, started via the Maracora law. [google.com]

          USA has over 11,000 companies that are 100 percent worker-owned.
          Over 400 of those are (Socialist) cooperatives.

          Go ahead and continue to work for "The Man".
          Go ahead and continue to buy from "The Man".
          Apparently, -some- people enjoy their chains.

          -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 24 2016, @06:19AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 24 2016, @06:19AM (#432308)

            > People start new companies all the time.

            Wait, if people are starting companies all the time, then what's the problem?

            > USA has over 11,000 companies that are 100 percent worker-owned.

            And how many owners are there? 22,000?

            You seem to have faith that tiny-sized co-ops can scale up without becoming organized power structures.
            That's never happened. Not even once. Because people.
            Its just the same old libertarian fantasy that in the absence of organized power structures people won't form organized power structures.
            You can have an argument about how rigid those structures will be, but to deny that they won't spontaneously form is to assume that people are robots who all think like you think you do.

            • (Score: 1) by SandRider on Friday November 25 2016, @06:30AM

              by SandRider (2611) on Friday November 25 2016, @06:30AM (#432770)

              The Mondragon Corporation employed 74,335 people in 2015. It is worker owned, though it also has non-owner workers so it is not the perfect example. But still it is a large successful cooperative business which has been around for 60 years.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation [wikipedia.org]

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 24 2016, @06:26AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 24 2016, @06:26AM (#432310)

            > Go ahead and continue to work for "The Man".

            I missed that the first time I read your post.
            I've been self-employed for over 15 years.
            Essentially retired now because I can afford it.

            But keep on projecting, that cognitive dissonance can't be very pleasant.