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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday November 30 2016, @01:54PM   Printer-friendly
from the you-can-never-have-too-many-offsite-backups-eh dept.

The Internet Archive plans to create a backup of its data in Canada in response to the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States:

The Internet Archive, a nonprofit that saves copies of old web pages, is creating a backup of its database in Canada, in response to the election of Donald Trump. "On November 9th in America, we woke up to a new administration promising radical change," the organization wrote in a blogpost explaining the move. "It was a firm reminder that institutions like ours, built for the long-term, need to design for change."

[...] The move will cost millions, according to the Internet Archive, which is soliciting donations. In their post, the Internet Archive justified its decision to backup its data in Canada, claiming that Trump could threaten an open internet. "For us, it means keeping our cultural materials safe, private and perpetually accessible. It means preparing for a Web that may face greater restrictions."


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  • (Score: 2) by edIII on Wednesday November 30 2016, @09:37PM

    by edIII (791) on Wednesday November 30 2016, @09:37PM (#435132)

    You're a fucking moron, and I'll burn a flag this week just to celebrate the fact that I can.

    It's NOT FUCKING TREASON, but a political statement, and we get to protest. Protesting is a sacrosanct right in our country, or just how the fuck did we create it in the first place? Did we change our status from within the English monarchy? Did we operate within the rules and procedures, gain votes, and had the fucking King of England *grant* us our freedom? Or did we fucking take it by force?

    Burning the flag IS FREE SPEECH. It's an expressive act to illuminate the abject and absolute failures of our government and the people that working within it.

    Rebellion? That's a nice easy word to throw around when you don't like what we're saying. It's not rebellion you stupid fuck, but again, a PROTEST. It's absolutely utterly and immutably and act of Free Speech. Forever.

    To say that I have the moral high ground in burning a flag is a massive fucking understatement. It's people like you that need to drop fucking dead in this country, because YOU WILL FOMENT AND ENGENDER CIVIL FUCKING WAR WHEN YOU DECIDE TO TAKE AWAY MY FUCKING RIGHTS.

    You want to deport mother fucker, then come and do it.

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  • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Wednesday November 30 2016, @10:06PM

    by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday November 30 2016, @10:06PM (#435152)

    Protesting is a sacrosanct right in our country, or just how the fuck did we create it in the first place? Did we change our status from within the English monarchy? Did we operate within the rules and procedures, gain votes, and had the fucking King of England *grant* us our freedom? Or did we fucking take it by force?

    America was founded by violent revolutionaries who committed high treason against the crown. That was the whole point of the exercise, it was why we had the Revolutionary War. What do you think the words "We pledge our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor" mean? They understood they were going all on on a cause they thought right and praying God deliver them the victory because they sure as heck weren't counting on purely strength of arms; remember that they were going up against the most powerful nation the world had yet seen. They understood all too well that had they lost they would have been hanged, their names forever blackened by history as traitors and their children left penniless if they were allowed to live at all. And this is all right and proper, Revolution should be difficult and dangerous so as to discourage it. See the Declaration of Independence itself for why; our Founders were after all, pretty wise.

    So by all means, declare your rebellion against America, burn the flag, whatever. Just be prepared to pay the price when you are wrong and lose your rebellion / war of independence. Look at the Confederate States of America for how that losing bit works. Otherwise you are limited to changing the system from within it, by the rules established for that purpose. And declaring your explicit disloyalty to the country should have negative consequences.

    • (Score: 2) by edIII on Wednesday November 30 2016, @10:20PM

      by edIII (791) on Wednesday November 30 2016, @10:20PM (#435159)

      Go fuck yourself again.

      We get to burn the flag as an act of Free Speech, protected by the U.S Constitution. The moment you think you can take that away because you don't like the speech, YOU BECAME THE ENEMY, not us.

      So go fucking die in a fire.

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    • (Score: 2) by urza9814 on Friday December 02 2016, @10:40PM

      by urza9814 (3954) on Friday December 02 2016, @10:40PM (#436281) Journal

      Read the entire Declaration, not just the last paragraph. Because it also directly declares that, should any government become oppressive, it is just and proper for the citizens to rebel against it. That's part of why the Constitution has a very specific and narrow definition of treason -- they were trying to AVOID repeating the oppression of the government they were escaping, not permanently embed it into the new nation.

      "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

      And this is all right and proper, Revolution should be difficult and dangerous so as to discourage it. See the Declaration of Independence itself for why; our Founders were after all, pretty wise.

      No, they say it should not be taken lightly, but also that all experience has shown that nothing needs to be done specifically to discourage it. It says that people are naturally resistant to change and will therefore willingly suffer for quite some time before being pushed far enough to take action. What they are saying is that they do not themselves take this decision lightly, and they were declaring that this fact should be self-evident because NOBODY would willingly start that war unless the problems were truly insufferable:

      "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."