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posted by Snow on Thursday December 01 2016, @08:16AM   Printer-friendly
from the spy-vs-spy dept.

Germany's foreign intelligence chief is warning of cyberattacks aimed at political destabilization as the country prepares for an election next year, and says evidence suggests Russian involvement in hacking during the U.S. campaign.

Bruno Kahl, who leads the Federal Intelligence Service, told Tuesday's edition of the daily Sueddeutsche Zeitung that his agency knows of "cyberattacks that have no other point than causing political insecurity." He said that "Europe is in the focus of this attempted disruption, and Germany in particular."

U.S. authorities have concluded Russia was responsible for hacking Democratic National Committee emails, which Russia denies. Kahl said he has "indications it comes from those quarters."

He said it's technically difficult to assign blame to any "state actor"—but that "some things speak for it being at least tolerated or wished for on the part of the state."

"The perpetrators have an interest in delegitimizing the democratic process as such—whomever that later helps," Kahl was quoted as saying. "I have the impression that the outcome of the American election isn't causing mourning in Russia so far."

Traces left on the internet suggest that those responsible wanted to demonstrate what they can do, "and not just in the U.S. elections," he said.

tl;dr: Something bad might happen; Give us more money.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by jasassin on Thursday December 01 2016, @09:08AM

    by jasassin (3566) <jasassin@gmail.com> on Thursday December 01 2016, @09:08AM (#435349) Homepage Journal

    What is the purpose of this? Is this another butthurt Hillary supporter? Why just the DNC why not the GOP? The GOP has magic routers with no unprotected maintenance ports? What routers what models? When and where? Until I see a list of affected models and a fucking youtube video of someone unboxing one from amazon, plugging it in and showing me this unprotected port, I'm calling bullshit. I don't recall Donald Trump debating about anything that we didn't already know. He said what we wanted to hear. Besides all that, according to what I've been told (yeah exactly) Hillary won the election by popular vote. If they are hacking the minds of the electoral college then cyber attacks are the least of our worries. This is all bullshit.

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  • (Score: 2) by tfried on Thursday December 01 2016, @11:12AM

    by tfried (5534) on Thursday December 01 2016, @11:12AM (#435386)

    Well, I wouldn't trust an intelligence chief on anything, so don't consider me convinced. But the guy isn't stupid. First, of course, the "cyberattack" he's talking about is leaking the DNC mails to Wikileaks, not to Trump, directly. No doubt that "hack" occurred. Second, Putin was very, very open about preferring Trump over Clinton, so only DNC mails leaked, and no similarly large leak on the other side would fit the picture.

    Quite possibly it's a plain lie. But unsurprisingly, coming from a professional liar, it's a fairly plausible one, at least.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 01 2016, @03:21PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 01 2016, @03:21PM (#435454)

    “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” - Sun Tzu

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 02 2016, @04:48AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 02 2016, @04:48AM (#435809)

      “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” - Sun Tzu

      孫子 never said this.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 01 2016, @03:28PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 01 2016, @03:28PM (#435459)

    I think you got some of the dynamics working in the background here. Germany has a problem, because during the Obama / Merkel reigns, the German government has hitched their wagon tightly to the policies of their American masters. So tightly that I think Germany had more independence in the 1980s. The press had been instructed to force feed the US line concerning Russia, Ukraine and Syria to the people. As in US media, the mainstream German media ran a constant barrage of anti-Trump reporting. And then the US election happened.

    There's a good chance now that US policy towards the countries where the Obama government had been poking their fingers is going to change. The sycophants and agents in the German government and establishment are starting to realize that their leash is about to be handed over to a new master, but there is still a lot of surprise and butt-hurt that HRC lost.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by HiThere on Thursday December 01 2016, @07:51PM

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 01 2016, @07:51PM (#435619) Journal

      I note you posted anonymously, and that so have several others. And I don't see anything peculiar or difficult to support in the claims listed in the summary, so your response seems scripted...though by what I'm not sure. The one that suggested that the head of a German Intelligence Agency was "a butthurt Hillary supporter" is so absurd that I find words failing me. Calling him a Merkel supporter would at least have plausibility. But as it is it sounds as if it was either posted by a troll, an astroturfer following a script, or someone with a room temperature IQ...and there's not a heater in this room.

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