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posted by on Thursday December 01 2016, @04:19PM   Printer-friendly
from the scientists-in-the-making dept.

The ABC news website (an Australian national news service funded by the Australian government) reports on a group of high school students from Sydney Australia who have managed to recreate the active ingredient in Daraprim for a mere $20.

Daraprim has received a lot of coverage recently after Turing Pharmaceuticals who owns the patent, initially raised the price of the drug from $13.50 to $750.00, though they have since stated that the price will be reduced.

From the article:

For $US20, a group of high school students has created 3.7 grams of an active ingredient used in the medicine Daraprim, which would sell in the United States for between $US35,000 and $US110,000.

Pyrimethamine, the active ingredient in Daraprim, treats a parasitic infection in people with weak immune systems such as pregnant women and HIV patients.

In August 2015, the price of Daraprim in the US rose from $US13.50 per tablet to $US750 when Turing Pharmaceuticals, and its controversial then-chief executive Martin Shkreli, acquired the drug's exclusive rights and hiked up the price.

Since then, the 17-year-olds from Sydney Grammar have worked in their school laboratory to create the drug cheaply in order to draw attention to its inflated price overseas, which student Milan Leonard said was "ridiculous".


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by edIII on Thursday December 01 2016, @08:14PM

    by edIII (791) on Thursday December 01 2016, @08:14PM (#435640)

    Why do you have to be so full of shit?

    I've not heard liberals say anything remotely like what you're saying, and I live near one of their capitols, San Fransisco. How does the idiocy of arguing about climate change and anti-EPA positions have anything to do with racism? They don't, and I've not heard anyone say that. You act like the fucking victim with far right positions being attacked as racist, when the facts of the matter are that enough far right people say racist shit that we created a stereotype. I don't need stereotypes, because I have *fucking ears* and can hear the bigotry and racism directly from people's mouths.

    Trump IS a racist. I'm one of the people you allude to. You want examples? Seriously? Talk about confirmation bias to the extent you have your head shoved so far up your ass just so you can't hear his words.

    Mexicans, Muslims, and anybody LGBTQ has reasons to be offended by that piece of shit. How dare you defend a racist by saying nobody has provided any evidence, when the man himself has provided so many pieces of fucking evidence over 20 years, caught on tape no less!

    He doesn't like black guys touching his money, but would prefer some jews instead. Actually said that! Do I really need to inform you about what he said about Mexicans? What he said about Muslims? Racism isn't the same as misogyny, but we know how much respect he has for anyone with a vagina. No, I'm not solely referring to his disgusting juvenile pussy grabbing statements.

    The wall is not inherently racist, but the entire drive and campaign to create it *IS*. Why are they doing it again? To "Make America White/Great Again"? Or because Mexicans are dirty criminals, rapists, and drug pushers?

    Dude, fuck you. You're running with a pack of racist and bigoted assholes and no amount of whining like a victim and attacking the left is going to erase the racism and bigotry of the actual statements made by the people you support. The near entirety of the Republican Party platform (as decided by them) is a racist and bigoted attack that we all see for what it is; The rise of White Nationalists and their new political party.

    While you may not be racist, you're so fucking stupid and full of confirmation bias that you can't see the others that do. You support them with the full weight of your intelligence and eloquence, while simultaneously arguing against that which they promulgate themselves directly. That's very sad.

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  • (Score: 1) by Arik on Thursday December 01 2016, @08:50PM

    by Arik (4543) on Thursday December 01 2016, @08:50PM (#435660) Journal
    "Why do you have to be so full of shit?"

    Did I hit a nerve?

    "I've not heard liberals say anything remotely like what you're saying"

    I don't believe I used the word 'liberals.' These people are really not liberals, there's nothing liberal about them.

    "He doesn't like black guys touching his money, but would prefer some jews instead. Actually said that!"

    Really? He told an ethnic joke? How dare he!

    Assuming he really did say that, I don't see a source.

    This is exactly what I'm talking about. You're coming unglued and frothing at the mouth over a common joke.

    "Do I really need to inform you about what he said about Mexicans? What he said about Muslims?"

    Yes, exactly, give me a quote and a link to a reliable source for something, anything, that he's said or done that shows him to be the racist scum you keep screaming that he is.

    I've seen the one guy that says that decades back he worked for Trump and 'everyone knew' he was a racist. Yawn.

    "The wall is not inherently racist"

    Good.

    "but the entire drive and campaign to create it *IS*. Why are they doing it again? To "Make America White/Great Again"? Or because Mexicans are dirty criminals, rapists, and drug pushers?"

    Because they are concerned about illegal immigration, and most of our illegal immigration comes via Mexico. And yes, I'm sorry if facts offend you, but it's a fact that some illegal immigrants who come through Mexico (many are NOT Mexican btw) have turned out to be dirty criminals, rapists, and drug pushers.

    And you can't just say that people who are concerned about illegal immigration at the moment are ipso facto racists. That's absurd! There are real problems and real dangers that people are reacting to. We need, we as a nation, we need to have a serious conversation about those issues, and that can't happen as long as some of us just start stamping their foot and screaming racism at the top of their lungs so no one else can talk the first time someone disagrees with them on a political issue.
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    • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by edIII on Thursday December 01 2016, @09:56PM

      by edIII (791) on Thursday December 01 2016, @09:56PM (#435696)

      1) The statement about black people was not an ethnic joke. He was serious. Don't even fucking try to pass it off as a joke. From the International Business Times [ibtimes.com] (you can Google for a minute for sources, but I don't think you want to see the truth):

      5. “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes… Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else…Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks,” John O’Donnell, a former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump saying to him in his 1991 book. In May 1997, Trump was asked about his comment during an interview with Playboy, and he confirmed that “the stuff” O’Donnell wrote about him were “PROBABLY TRUE.”

      2) You're being deliberately obtuse to ask for a citation about the his statements about Mexicans. It was part of his fucking campaign you fucking moron! I'm not giving you a citation to this, because it's on FUCKING VIDEO and played repeatedly throughout the whole fucking campaign! Seriously, LOL dude. Do I need a citation that the sun rises every day? Your request is similar. Look it up asshole. Trump Tower Atrium in Manhattan on June 16, 2015, in his own racist words.

      Because they are concerned about illegal immigration, and most of our illegal immigration comes via Mexico. And yes, I'm sorry if facts offend you, but it's a fact that some illegal immigrants who come through Mexico (many are NOT Mexican btw) have turned out to be dirty criminals, rapists, and drug pushers.

      And you can't just say that people who are concerned about illegal immigration at the moment are ipso facto racists. That's absurd! There are real problems and real dangers that people are reacting to. We need, we as a nation, we need to have a serious conversation about those issues, and that can't happen as long as some of us just start stamping their foot and screaming racism at the top of their lungs so no one else can talk the first time someone disagrees with them on a political issue.

      It's racist to make the generalization that the people coming in across the border are all rapists and criminals. He didn't buffer his statement in the way that you did. He didn't care enough about how racism affects others (as you seem to), and he made a wide sweeping generalization, and that is often what you find with racists and bullies, of which Trump is the epitome of both. You restating it in a better way doesn't change the reality of how Trump acts and speaks, and only speaks to your character, not his.

      Never said that concerns about immigration are racist, and you stamping your foot up and down like a victim saying you want a conversation DOES NOT FUCKING JUSTIFY THE RACISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      We can have that conversation, and it isn't racist. It becomes racist when you add the generalizations to it. If ALL Trump did was say that too many criminals are coming in through the border and he wants to work on practical immigration reform and building very strong and imposing physical structures for security that would be one thing. He didn't though, and the bulk of his argument was a racist, ignorant tirade about immigrants. When asked about it, he didn't apologize, he didn't rephrase, he didn't do anything but double down on the hate.

      It's possible to have an intelligent reasonable discussion about immigration reform, but your complaints are fucking ridiculous. As long as you remove the racism and bigotry from your own statements, we could do so. The moment you start sounding like a KKK recruitment speech, the conversation stops.

      Again, the only person not able to have the immigration conversation IS YOU.

      For the record, there are exactly TWO possibilities with Trump:

      1) He is a racist
      2) He's not a racist, but loves saying hurtful shit to get a rise out of people for whatever reason. In other words, he is a troll. We elected a troll as President who will say racist hurtful shit just to get attention.

      So which is he? Neither of them bode well for our future.

      • (Score: 1) by Arik on Thursday December 01 2016, @10:27PM

        by Arik (4543) on Thursday December 01 2016, @10:27PM (#435709) Journal
        1) Seriously, you're reading that and you really don't understand that you're reading an anecdote about a bad joke? That's just stunning.

        "Look it up asshole."

        So, he's such a racist that he just vomits racist filth every time he opens his mouth, but it's too difficult for you to find a single link to a single clear occurrence of this. I'm guessing you spent quite a bit of time looking for it and couldn't find it cause it ain't there.

        "We elected a troll as President"

        Doh. You hadn't figured that out yet?

        But I still don't see any "hurtful racist" things he's said either, just him trolling people who seem to think their job in life is finding things to be offended by. If what he said was actually uniformly offensive to, for instance, latinos, why did nearly 30% of latinos vote for him, hmm?

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        • (Score: 2) by edIII on Thursday December 01 2016, @10:55PM

          by edIII (791) on Thursday December 01 2016, @10:55PM (#435719)

          You can keep trying to change reality, but it wasn't a joke, it wasn't an anecdote. I can see that it is simply too painful for you to accept that the apparent political party you support has been overrun by white nationalists.

          So, he's such a racist that he just vomits racist filth every time he opens his mouth, but it's too difficult for you to find a single link to a single clear occurrence of this. I'm guessing you spent quite a bit of time looking for it and couldn't find it cause it ain't there.

          What is stunning is that you continue to ignore the actual statements he made while starting his campaign. I provided citations, which directly attribute those as his words. If they're lying, it's a libel/slander case, and the child emperor just loves those lawsuits. He would actually win too, but........ he can't when they have him on video.

          But I still don't see any "hurtful racist" things he's said either, just him trolling people who seem to think their job in life is finding things to be offended by. If what he said was actually uniformly offensive to, for instance, latinos, why did nearly 30% of latinos vote for him, hmm?

          You don't see it because you don't want to see it. I've been impartial from the start of this whole affair, and gave Trump a legitimate chance to persuade me. HIS statements persuaded me otherwise, not some liberal agenda, not the democrats, not the big bad MSM, but HIS FUCKING STATEMENTS WHERE IT WAS DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTABLE AS A QUOTE OF HIS WORDS. You do understand what that means right? It's not a 3rd party analysis of something that happened, but actual simple journalism where they repeated those words and properly attributed them to Trump. ONLY his words and actions swayed me about his character.

          Whether or not somebody voted for him, has absolutely zero bearing on whether his statements were, or were not, racist. Look at yourself for the explanation. People that will support their party and excuse absolutely anything so that the party may win. You can't generalize all Latinos as Democrats or liberals, and Republican Latinos actually exist, as well as Republican African-Americans, women, gay men, lesbian women, etc. Strange how we see the super Trump haters, that also happen to be Republican, start towing the line the day he formally gets the nomination? Yeah, your question is just impossible to answer, when he insults somebodies family deeply, and that person STILL supports him. So they didn't vote for Trump you idiot, they voted for the Republican Party, and there is a substantive difference. You're clearly smart enough to know that, so again, it's deliberate and wilful ignorance of the facts.

          You elected a racist that is putting together a cabinet of white nationalists and nothing you can say will alter the reality of what and who these people are. Actions speak louder than words, and words are now recorded and quoted.

          Deal it with it mother fucker. You support racists and bigots and are continually complaining about a lack of evidence loudly in the face of citations being given to you, and it makes you look like a stupid asshole. You even admitted to it, but then tried to change reality (a usual behavior in our post-truth world) by saying he was a troll that we shouldn't take seriously.

          I guess you went with #2 huh? :D

          *golf clap* *golf clap* *golf clap* *golf clap* *golf clap* *golf clap* *golf clap* *golf clap*

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          • (Score: 1) by Arik on Thursday December 01 2016, @11:36PM

            by Arik (4543) on Thursday December 01 2016, @11:36PM (#435736) Journal
            "You can keep trying to change reality, but it wasn't a joke, it wasn't an anecdote."

            It was literally an anecdote about a bad joke.

            "What is stunning is that you continue to ignore the actual statements[...]"

            It's quite astonishing that you just put out two more sizable paragraphs of this rhetoric but you still haven't cited a single sentence!

            "Whether or not somebody voted for him, has absolutely zero bearing on whether his statements were, or were not, racist."

            Oh I do not agree. I think that the hypothesis that 29 out of every 100 voters in this country who identify as Latino/a voted for a man who is openly racist against them and regularly vomits offensive filth towards them is a rather extraordinary one, actually. It begs for proofs.

            "Look at yourself for the explanation."

            You know nothing about me, and I have no idea what you mean.

            Your ranting has degenerated to the point I don't think you even know what you're saying.

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            • (Score: 2) by edIII on Friday December 02 2016, @02:39AM

              by edIII (791) on Friday December 02 2016, @02:39AM (#435777)

              It was literally an anecdote about a bad joke.

              No, it literally was not. That was Trump complaining about who was touching his money, and then he confirmed the statements when asked. At best, we can't tell between trolling and racism. Combine that with the lawsuits against him in NY for discrimination specifically against black people, and that is hard to accept as a "joke".

              Those are his statements sir, and there are lists with hundreds that have been circulated. Quotes, I think is the term right? As in, he fucking said them. Since he loves to sue the fuck out of people, and is a gazillionaire, why doesn't he attack those lists? BECAUSE HE CAN'T WIN, BECAUSE HE SAID IT.

              It's quite astonishing that you just put out two more sizable paragraphs of this rhetoric but you still haven't cited a single sentence!

              Still not going to. I gave you the date, time, and place. If your such a stubborn mother fucker, or just plain ignorant, that you don't know the opening lines to your candidates campaign, that reverberated around the world (especially Mexico and their media--habla Espanol?), I'm going to let you reel out that rope to yourself for as long as you want buddy. It only makes you look like a true asshole, because it's a well known fact worldwide.

              You can have your citations in multiple languages, news outlets, and countries. Take your pick. All attributed as a direct quote, from the very man himself, starting his Presidential campaign.

              It's like you would demand a citation that J.F.K was shot :) Keep it up, that part is entertaining as hell.

              Oh I do not agree. I think that the hypothesis that 29 out of every 100 voters in this country who identify as Latino/a voted for a man who is openly racist against them and regularly vomits offensive filth towards them is a rather extraordinary one, actually. It begs for proofs.

              I thought you were smarter than that. You do understand that one action has nothing to do with the other? I can say "niggers should hang", get elected as Mayor, and it does not mean that I wasn't racist with my words. How do any subsequent actions remove the character that can be attributed to the words?

              My statement again, "Whether or not somebody voted for him, has absolutely zero bearing on whether his statements were, or were not, racist."

              So by you not agreeing, this means that if somebody did vote for him it has bearing on whether HIS statements were racist? Think about that again, and this supports my point that you have issues with reality when it comes to politics.

              You know nothing about me, and I have no idea what you mean.

              Your ranting has degenerated to the point I don't think you even know what you're saying.

              I know exactly what I'm saying. You have problems because you can't reconcile your positions against racism and bigotry with the stark and unpleasant fact that the bastion of your political beliefs has been taking over by people that have, and demonstrate, racist and/or bigoted views.

              You asked how somebody could still vote for him, even though he has said racist and hurtful things about them. That answer is political affiliation, and a mixture of fear and hate of the other side.

              Additionally, if you want a further explanation, both major choices were complete shit on their own. The Democratic Party platform was just less scary, and for the record, it won the popular vote. Depending on recounts, it may have one the EC. So don't act like the election is over, or not even controversial, or providing a mandate for jack shit.

              What the election said loudly was that we were all pissed off and very afraid.

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