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Greybeard-built Debian fork bringing init freedom on track for early 2017 release
The self-proclaimed "Veteran Unix Admins" forking Debian in the name of init freedom have released Beta 2 of their "Devuan" Linux distribution.
Devuan came about after some users felt it had become too desktop-friendly. The change the greybeards objected to most was the decision to replace sysvinit init with systemd, a move felt to betray core Unix principles of user choice and keeping bloat to a bare minimum.
Supporters of init freedom also dispute assertions that systemd is in all ways superior to sysvinit init, arguing that Debian ignored viable alternatives like sinit, openrc, runit, s6 and shepherd. All are therefore included in Devuan.
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(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 03 2016, @08:52PM
Do yourself a favor and try Linux Mint. It's like a blazingly fast Windows 7 with an even better UI, updates, and no telemetry. Wine will run most common Windows applications at this point, Steam is there with a huge and growing gaming library. Not AAA titles but there's lifetimes of quality entertainment. Chrome is available and it'll play back your streaming service of choice.
(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Saturday December 03 2016, @08:58PM
Will it run professional grade CADCAM?
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 4, Informative) by butthurt on Saturday December 03 2016, @09:20PM
People have run AutoCAD under Wine, with varying results.
https://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=86 [winehq.org]
https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-run-autocad-on-wine [techwalla.com]
http://www.architectafrica.com/bin0/news200411111_wine.html [architectafrica.com]
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Tuesday December 06 2016, @12:17AM
"Varying degrees of success" is what I meant.
(Score: 2) by mmcmonster on Saturday December 03 2016, @09:34PM
Wine will do a lot of stuff pretty well, and wine-based offerings like Crossover will give you confidence that your application will work (if it's on their list).
Another option is running Linux Mint (or other Linux variant) as your OS and create a virtual machine running Windows 7 for those times you need a package that only runs under Windows.
The fact of the matter is, if you need a package that runs Windows, you should probably be running Windows or looking for alternative applications. If you don't want to bother looking for alternative apps, why look for an OS alternative?
(Score: 2) by frojack on Saturday December 03 2016, @10:33PM
Agreed, sometimes you just run windows, even if it means running it in a virtual machine.
Wine is Crossover based, not the other way around.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by mhajicek on Sunday December 04 2016, @04:07AM
It's not a matter of "bother looking". In several years of looking I have found one professional grade CAM system that runs on something other than Windows and it would cost about $40k to switch over, discarding my current $20k software. 20 to 30 years ago most ran on Unix, but not so much any more. Many were acquired and discontinued.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 3, Informative) by Appalbarry on Saturday December 03 2016, @10:08PM
Assuming you have your Windows install media, it's easy enough to install VirtualBox, and run pure Windows inside Linux.
On any recent hardware it'll work fine, and avoid the quirks of Wine.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 04 2016, @12:56AM
If you have a valid key, you can download ISOs from Microsoft. That way the only spyware and viruses that come with it are from Microsoft.
(Score: 2) by captain normal on Sunday December 04 2016, @07:06AM
Gee..I sure don't need anymore of those.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts"- --Daniel Patrick Moynihan--