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posted by janrinok on Saturday December 03 2016, @07:54PM   Printer-friendly
from the fight-fight-fight! dept.

Greybeard-built Debian fork bringing init freedom on track for early 2017 release

The self-proclaimed "Veteran Unix Admins" forking Debian in the name of init freedom have released Beta 2 of their "Devuan" Linux distribution.

Devuan came about after some users felt it had become too desktop-friendly. The change the greybeards objected to most was the decision to replace sysvinit init with systemd, a move felt to betray core Unix principles of user choice and keeping bloat to a bare minimum.

Supporters of init freedom also dispute assertions that systemd is in all ways superior to sysvinit init, arguing that Debian ignored viable alternatives like sinit, openrc, runit, s6 and shepherd. All are therefore included in Devuan.

-- submitted from IRC


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  • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Saturday December 03 2016, @08:58PM

    by mhajicek (51) on Saturday December 03 2016, @08:58PM (#436638)

    Will it run professional grade CADCAM?

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by butthurt on Saturday December 03 2016, @09:20PM

    by butthurt (6141) on Saturday December 03 2016, @09:20PM (#436643) Journal
    • (Score: 2) by butthurt on Tuesday December 06 2016, @12:17AM

      by butthurt (6141) on Tuesday December 06 2016, @12:17AM (#437473) Journal

      "Varying degrees of success" is what I meant.

  • (Score: 2) by mmcmonster on Saturday December 03 2016, @09:34PM

    by mmcmonster (401) on Saturday December 03 2016, @09:34PM (#436654)

    Wine will do a lot of stuff pretty well, and wine-based offerings like Crossover will give you confidence that your application will work (if it's on their list).

    Another option is running Linux Mint (or other Linux variant) as your OS and create a virtual machine running Windows 7 for those times you need a package that only runs under Windows.

    The fact of the matter is, if you need a package that runs Windows, you should probably be running Windows or looking for alternative applications. If you don't want to bother looking for alternative apps, why look for an OS alternative?

    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Saturday December 03 2016, @10:33PM

      by frojack (1554) on Saturday December 03 2016, @10:33PM (#436675) Journal

      Agreed, sometimes you just run windows, even if it means running it in a virtual machine.

      Wine is Crossover based, not the other way around.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by mhajicek on Sunday December 04 2016, @04:07AM

      by mhajicek (51) on Sunday December 04 2016, @04:07AM (#436761)

      It's not a matter of "bother looking". In several years of looking I have found one professional grade CAM system that runs on something other than Windows and it would cost about $40k to switch over, discarding my current $20k software. 20 to 30 years ago most ran on Unix, but not so much any more. Many were acquired and discontinued.

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