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posted by janrinok on Saturday December 03 2016, @07:54PM   Printer-friendly
from the fight-fight-fight! dept.

Greybeard-built Debian fork bringing init freedom on track for early 2017 release

The self-proclaimed "Veteran Unix Admins" forking Debian in the name of init freedom have released Beta 2 of their "Devuan" Linux distribution.

Devuan came about after some users felt it had become too desktop-friendly. The change the greybeards objected to most was the decision to replace sysvinit init with systemd, a move felt to betray core Unix principles of user choice and keeping bloat to a bare minimum.

Supporters of init freedom also dispute assertions that systemd is in all ways superior to sysvinit init, arguing that Debian ignored viable alternatives like sinit, openrc, runit, s6 and shepherd. All are therefore included in Devuan.

-- submitted from IRC


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  • (Score: 1) by butthurt on Saturday December 03 2016, @10:51PM

    by butthurt (6141) on Saturday December 03 2016, @10:51PM (#436680) Journal

    When contributing to Devuan did he use the handle "sgryphon"?

    https://web.archive.org/web/20161203223325/https://osdir.com/ml/debian-user-debian/2016-04/msg00891.html [archive.org]

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by fritsd on Saturday December 03 2016, @11:39PM

    by fritsd (4586) on Saturday December 03 2016, @11:39PM (#436697) Journal

    I don't remember. The mailinglist is fairly high-volume, often I just browse it.

    I think in june 2016 it was "concernedfossdev".

    This is a link to a link to a discussion of mikeeusa:

    https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20160611.125957.f0c41553.en.html [dyne.org]

    I'm glad he was banned, nobody else pulled the level of discussion down as much as him. It was really not normal what he all said (even for the Internet).
    That's why I got annoyed at the comment here about Devuan: "mikeeusa and his team".

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 06 2016, @07:54PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 06 2016, @07:54PM (#437984)

    yes.

    • (Score: 2) by butthurt on Tuesday December 06 2016, @09:05PM

      by butthurt (6141) on Tuesday December 06 2016, @09:05PM (#438032) Journal

      The OP insinuated that MikeeUSA was the project's leader, but he doesn't seem to be listed at all among the project's principals:

      https://devuan.org/os/team/ [devuan.org]

      I'm inclined to believe the message linked by fritsd that says MikeeUSA was banned from the project's mailing list, and I'm inclined to believe fritsd's statement that MikeeUSA was more active on the mailing list than in contributing code. I would assume that his code, if any, has received extra scrutiny.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @12:24PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @12:24PM (#439958)

        MikeeUSA contributes only to videogames in freedom.

        ChaosEsque Anthology has been submitted for packaging, though it takes up a full dvd...