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posted by janrinok on Saturday December 03 2016, @07:54PM   Printer-friendly
from the fight-fight-fight! dept.

Greybeard-built Debian fork bringing init freedom on track for early 2017 release

The self-proclaimed "Veteran Unix Admins" forking Debian in the name of init freedom have released Beta 2 of their "Devuan" Linux distribution.

Devuan came about after some users felt it had become too desktop-friendly. The change the greybeards objected to most was the decision to replace sysvinit init with systemd, a move felt to betray core Unix principles of user choice and keeping bloat to a bare minimum.

Supporters of init freedom also dispute assertions that systemd is in all ways superior to sysvinit init, arguing that Debian ignored viable alternatives like sinit, openrc, runit, s6 and shepherd. All are therefore included in Devuan.

-- submitted from IRC


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  • (Score: 2) by JNCF on Sunday December 04 2016, @05:54PM

    by JNCF (4317) on Sunday December 04 2016, @05:54PM (#436928) Journal

    That's totally fair, I was actually thinking more along the lines of GUI-related ignorance. I don't know GGP-AC's use cases, but he might be a point-and-clicker -- and they still get frustrated when switching user interfaces. There are a bunch of tutorials available for Ubuntu users who get stuck on really simple tasks, and I've seen this be really helpful.

    I woke up this morning realising that I'd failed to mention Ubuntu's very real GUI-related security concerns. No, I don't want to tell Amazon every time I search for an application locally. That should be opt-in, not opt-out.

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 05 2016, @12:01AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 05 2016, @12:01AM (#437016)

    The Ubuntu Shopping Lens has been disabled by default since April. [google.com]

    This has been covered here previously. [soylentnews.org]
    You can stop your hand-waving about this issue.

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    As for your previous post regarding tutorials, folks have to be careful that what they find applies to the version they are using.
    In that respect, it's not so different from Windoze tutorials.
    A large volume of how-tos is nice--as long as those are all actually applicable.

    -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]