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The guardian reports on a sobering event in Washington DC.
US police have arrested a man wielding an assault rifle who entered a pizza restaurant that was the target of fake news reports it was operating a child abuse ring led by Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and her top campaign aide.
[...] The suspect entered the restaurant and pointed a gun at a restaurant employee, who fled and notified authorities, police said. The man then discharged the weapon inside the restaurant. There were no injuries.
[...] [Police] said the suspect during an interview with investigators revealed that he came to the establishment to "self-investigate" Pizzagate, the police statement said. Pizzagate is a baseless conspiracy, which falsely claims Clinton and her campaign chief John Podesta were running a child sex ring from the restaurant's backrooms.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday December 06 2016, @01:54PM
Then you haven't bothered to do your own investigation and fact-check anything. You just assumed that because it sounds outrageous that it must be fake. Remember "the NSA is spying on everyone"? Yeah, not so fake even though you were a tinfoil-hat-wearer if you mentioned it pre-Snowden.
Yes, there is a lot of confirmation bias and even more supposition. There's also a fuckton of coincidence in the provable facts if nothing shady is going on.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by RamiK on Tuesday December 06 2016, @02:20PM
Ever heard of Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon [wikipedia.org]? I bet someone as high profile as Clinton will connect to everything well under six degrees. Especially if you're going through online social networks where every tweet, post, like and event makes thousands of connections.
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(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday December 06 2016, @06:23PM
Not the same at all. These are people the Clintons hire and socialize with regularly rather than someone who someone's brother's girlfriend's former roommate went to grade school with.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by RamiK on Tuesday December 06 2016, @08:04PM
Guilt by association is tricky. DC is pay-as-you-go social club. Industry, commerce, politics, crime... There so many people running in the same circles that you just can't judge the nature of a relationship based on a paycheck or social gathering.
The Bushs and the Bin Ladens ties are a good example: Very big families with lots of money and politics going back 40 years.
The Clintons and Trumps aren't immune from this. It's simply statistically more likely the more ties you have to associate yourself with corruption. Take a police officer: All their friends are cops. Hence, they're more likely to be friends with a corrupt cop. Now, multiply this over border crossing trades, dealing with foreign dictators, assassinations, regulations... It's a dirty game filled with dirty players.
Specifically regarding Clinton, there's already have enough to convict her over the leaks. All this child-abuse nonsense smells like a calculated attempt to divert resources and prolong the investigation into dead-ends. Just enough breadcrumbs to have the police running in circles until the masses forget about her real crimes. Now that, that's a conspiracy theory I can believe.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 06 2016, @09:50PM
... and if it turns out that the original cop was friends with a corrupt cop and was aware of the corruption without taking steps to correct it, then both are culpable.
The sheer number of convicted pedophiles in Podesta's social circle is alarming.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 06 2016, @03:44PM
How do you fact check bullshit?
Iv'e looked at the evidence and so far it goes like this: "Look at this email. It makes no sense without context. So we superimpose supposed child rape context and it looks like it fits. So it must be true." For all we know, the emails are completely fake. There isn't any hard such as video, pictures or audio. Nothing but easily faked emails and people reaching really fucking hard to try and connect the dots. It's all hearsay based on easily faked evidence.
Lets look at some other "evidence" shall we?
"Someone used the word farm which must make them pedos because some documentary back in the 80's referred to a child trafficking operation as the farm."(I'm paraphrasing) By that logic, every farmer in the USA must fuck kids. Hell, I guess my friends parents who started a little farm must be pedos too since they now refer to their property as a farm.
But wait, it gets better! "Look at the star and moon on the pizza sign! there is a star and moon on this picture of Satan so they must be devil worshipers!" I'm surprised they didn't connect the star and moon to Islam. Would have been much better since Muhammad was supposedly a pedo himself. That would have been much more lulzy.
Then we got to a spiral triangle symbol, one I've seen in art and earrings, is linking another pizza joint which happens to have a spiral triangle logo. As if the fucktards forgot the shape of a fucking pizza slice.
And crossed ping pong paddles look like a butterfly child love logo?
Or how about James Alefantis sounds like J’aime les enfants which means I love children in French. By that logic, Dick Butkus is a butt sex freak hiding in plain sight.
This whole thing is a sham and I cant believe you would consider such flimsy evidence. What ever happened to innocent before guilty? Seems no one gives a fuck about proper and fair justice. It's all torches and pitchforks. Salem witch trials all over again. Have we learned nothing?
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Tuesday December 06 2016, @04:40PM
I posted AC? This is what happens when you post and have a an awful head cold. Two fuck ups in a row and an unclosed block quote. Sheesh. I should go home.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday December 06 2016, @06:12PM
I've read it. There are verifiable facts presented. Some I've even verified. Is it a solid case? Hell no. Is there a verifiable state where either something fishy as hell going on or one massive string of coincidences happened? Yup.
I get that you don't want to believe all the guys supporting you are rotten sons of bitches but if you're closed to the possibility that they are you're a fool.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday December 06 2016, @06:35PM
I agree with your analysis.
"Look at the star and moon on the pizza sign! there is a star and moon on this picture of Satan so they must be devil worshipers!" I'm surprised they didn't connect the star and moon to Islam. Would have been much better since Muhammad was supposedly a pedo himself. That would have been much more lulzy.
I'll do a little groundwork on this theory. The image depicted is of Baphomet, which is derived Pan, the fertility god and according to the link I'm about to put Cernunnous, another nature/fertility figure. I went to Wikipedia which gives a cite of 1098 for the first use of Baphomet, but I found this page [pneumatikos93.com] that attempts an etymology:
…There has been quite a lot of speculation as to the origin of the name of Baphomet. Indries Shaw, a Sufi scholar claimed it originated from the Arabic term abu fi ‘hamat, meaning ‘father of wisdom’ or ‘father of understanding’, explaining also that the Arabic term Ras el ‘fahmat means ‘head of knowledge’. And according to author Joshua Seraphim the Arabic word for father also translates into ‘source’ or ‘chief seat’, relating it to the great Sufi healer and martyr, Husain ibn Mansur al ‘Hallaj, who was crucified and beheaded in 922 A.D.
Both Wikipedia and that page give alternate etymologies, so it's not completely concrete, but it would seem plausible given Wikipedia's reference from 1098 [wikipedia.org]:
The name Baphomet appeared in July 1098 in a letter by the crusader Anselm of Ribemont:
Sequenti die aurora apparente, altis vocibus Baphometh invocaverunt; et nos Deum nostrum in cordibus nostris deprecantes, impetum facientes in eos, de muris civitatis omnes expulimus.
As the next day dawned, they called loudly upon Baphometh; and we prayed silently in our hearts to God, then we attacked and forced all of them outside the city walls.
I could see “Baphometh” being a corruption of “abu fi ‘hamat.” So we have a good link to Islam via the Crusades, even though the image shown with the moon iconography wouldn't show up until 1856 during a revival of occult interest. From the first link:
The image above [of Baphomet] was created by Alphonse Louis Constant under the pseudonym of Eliphas Levi Zahed, and published in a two volume book titled Dogme et Ritual de la Haute Magie, in 1856. The English title is Transcendental Magic: It’s Doctrine and Ritual, as translated by Arthur Edward Waite, a Freemason and esoteric author. But the literal translation is The Dogma and Ritual of High Magic.
That's good enough for a wild-eyed theory about devil-worshipers sexually abusing children in rituals meant to bring about the anti-Christ and New World Order, etc. (Organized through a pizza place!)