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posted by on Tuesday December 06 2016, @12:19PM   Printer-friendly
from the don't-believe-everything-you-read dept.

The guardian reports on a sobering event in Washington DC.

US police have arrested a man wielding an assault rifle who entered a pizza restaurant that was the target of fake news reports it was operating a child abuse ring led by Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and her top campaign aide.

[...] The suspect entered the restaurant and pointed a gun at a restaurant employee, who fled and notified authorities, police said. The man then discharged the weapon inside the restaurant. There were no injuries.

[...] [Police] said the suspect during an interview with investigators revealed that he came to the establishment to "self-investigate" Pizzagate, the police statement said. Pizzagate is a baseless conspiracy, which falsely claims Clinton and her campaign chief John Podesta were running a child sex ring from the restaurant's backrooms.


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  • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Tuesday December 06 2016, @07:30PM

    by cubancigar11 (330) on Tuesday December 06 2016, @07:30PM (#437964) Homepage Journal

    I have a minor degree in sociology and sociology is not a science. People who do sociology are barely literate in maths. Most studies are created by what the (current) government wants to fund and consequently studies contradict each other all the time.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 06 2016, @07:44PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 06 2016, @07:44PM (#437979)

    > People who do sociology are barely literate in maths.

    People who do science are barely literate in maths. Most know the bare minimum to get by in their field.

    Math is not a requirement for science. It is a requirement for a certain range of sciences, but is not for all forms of science.
    A falsifiable premise does not require math.
    Repeatable results do not require math.

    So, another vocab fail. Unsurprising. Its always the people who consider themselves superior that fall on their faces due to sloppy thinking.

  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday December 06 2016, @10:33PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday December 06 2016, @10:33PM (#438092) Journal

    I suppose it matters how your program of study was constituted. The sociology program where I did my master's was all math, all the time. It was quite proud to be the home of NORC (if you studied sociology, you'll have heard of them). Then, they were right next to the economists who'd collectively won a dozen or more Nobel prizes. A lot of keeping up with the Joneses to do there with quantitative methods...

    I consider both those disciplines to be social sciences. "Social" because human beings make poor test subjects and will never give you the predictability you need to be a "real" science. But it is certainly not for lack of trying, lack of mathematical understanding, or loosey-goosey modeling.

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    Washington DC delenda est.
    • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Wednesday December 07 2016, @03:18AM

      by cubancigar11 (330) on Wednesday December 07 2016, @03:18AM (#438189) Homepage Journal

      I suppose it matters how your program of study was constituted.

      May be. One of my teacher was the head of some central government body, but he personally thought that boys schools promote homosexuality.

      Sociology depends a lot on modelling and funnily it was sociology that taught me how measurement of variables via polling is flawed for giving wildly different results based questioner and how a question is framed. That itself is a razor that cuts through most of the publications. I am not dissing the whole discipline but a lot of "research" is borderline propaganda with bad sampling, small sample size and ridiculously in agreement with current government policies. In fact I will go out on a limb and say that every thing in sociology that is insightful is either 50 or more years old or is debunking 50 or more year old theory.