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The U.S. surgeon general has warned against surging e-cigarette use among teenagers, calling it a "major public health concern" in a new report:
The U.S. surgeon general is calling e-cigarettes an emerging public health threat to the nation's youth. In a report being released Thursday, Surgeon General Vivek Murthy acknowledged a need for more research into the health effects of "vaping," but said e-cigarettes aren't harmless and too many teens are using them. "My concern is e-cigarettes have the potential to create a whole new generation of kids who are addicted to nicotine," Murthy told The Associated Press. "If that leads to the use of other tobacco-related products, then we are going to be moving backward instead of forward."
[...] Federal figures show that last year, 16 percent of high school students reported at least some use of e-cigarettes - even some who say they've never smoked a conventional cigarette. While not all contain nicotine, Murthy's report says e-cigarettes are the most commonly used tobacco-related product among youth. Nicotine is bad for a developing brain no matter how it's exposed, Murthy said. "Your kids are not an experiment," he says in a public service announcement being released with the report.
It's already illegal to sell e-cigarettes to minors. Earlier this year, the Food and Drug Administration issued new rules that, for the first time, will require makers of nicotine-emitting devices to begin submitting their ingredients for regulators to review.
Also at USA Today, NYT, The Hill, and The Washington Post.
(Score: 2) by curunir_wolf on Friday December 09 2016, @02:12PM
While not all contain nicotine, Murthy's report says e-cigarettes are the most commonly used tobacco-related product among youth.
This is how dishonest these puritanical authoritarians are [blogspot.com]. They call e-cigarettes "tobacco-related" products, even though they have no nicotine and no tobacco were used to create them. This is nothing but a fear-mongering "won't someone please think of the children" propaganda campaign designed to drum up support for banning e-cigarettes completely, even though that will drive adults that have managed to give up combustible cigarettes to go back to them.
In their zeal to get rid of these things, they are supporting the profits of big tobacco and it will lead to greater suffering and death. I think they know this, but they do not care. They are convinced that if anyone is to get a dose of nicotine, they should suffer and die as a result. It's how they see the world. And, yes, people will die [soylentnews.org] as a result of these efforts.
I am a crackpot
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 09 2016, @07:01PM
> They call e-cigarettes "tobacco-related" products, even though they have no nicotine and no tobacco were used to create them
Duh 95+% of vaping is about nicotine. The nicotine in vaping fluid is extracted from tobacco leaves.
Describing vaping as tobacco-related is completely accurate. Sure there are exceptions, but that doesn't negate the overwhelming use of e-cigs as a nicotine delivery system.
(Score: 2) by rondon on Friday December 09 2016, @08:02PM
95+% of all statistics you see on the internet are made up.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 09 2016, @08:17PM
Yay for autistic literalism.
Its a representative number.
If you have a well-researched number at hand, post it.
Otherwise learn how to be a normal human being.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 10 2016, @05:45AM
Yay for autistic literalism.
Thanks for adding more pseudoscience to the discussion. You're not a psychologist or anything related and have absolutely no place using terms like "autistic" here. Stop using such terms as generic insults.
In any case, don't say that someone is being too literal because you pulled statistics out of nowhere and they called you out on it. Instead, try being correct so that fewer people will feel the need to argue with you. This is entirely your fault.
Otherwise learn how to be a normal human being.
So being a "normal human being" includes making up statistics and passing them off as fact, and then insulting people who correct you? I don't want to be a "normal human being", then.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 10 2016, @07:20AM
> You're not a psychologist or anything related and have absolutely no place using terms like "autistic" here.
Getting your panties in a twist because I'm using words in a way you don't approve of has got to be the most autistic thing ever. The fact that you have admitted to being on the spectrum kind of undermines your whole point too.
> So being a "normal human being" includes making up statistics and passing them off as fact, and then insulting people who correct you? I
I have yet to see any correction at all. Just someone who thinks literalism is the only source of meaning. Someone so autistic that the concepts of hyperbole and casual communication are incomprehensible.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 09 2016, @08:21PM
As an FYI: There are more sources for nicotine than just tobacco. Some of the vape shops near me get the extracted nicotine for their e-juices from tomatoes to help avoid getting taxed/regulated under existing tobacco laws. It's just as effective.
I did note most of the comments on this story are careful to refer directly to the nicotine in e-cigs instead of the tobacco for this reason.
From wikipedia:
Nicotine is a substance found in most members of the Nightshade family of plants. Small quantities of it can be found in tomatoes, potatoes, aubergines (eggplants) and green pepper (Capsicum, the peppers used as vegetables).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 09 2016, @11:05PM
> There are more sources for nicotine than just tobacco.
Yes. there is a minuscule amount of e-juice using non-tobacco nicotine derived from other members of the nightshade family. And I knew someone would bring it up because, here on retarded slashdot, the one thing you can count on is that somebody is going to think that the rare exception is representative of the general case.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 10 2016, @05:47AM
No one has provided any well-researched statistics, so it's hard to say what is and is not representative of the general case.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 10 2016, @07:23AM
Thank you Captain Obvious!
Your contributions to the conversation have been very enlightening.
Completely invaluable that!
Perhaps you could also tell us that the sky is not technically blue? I feel that is something completely within your wheelhouse. Am I right?
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Friday December 09 2016, @07:07PM
[Electronic cigarettes] have no nicotine and no tobacco [is] used to create them.
That's incorrect. Very often, the fluid used with electronic cigarettes contains nicotine, which is exracted from tobacco, as the blog you linked acknowledges:
But the nicotine in a nicotine patch is derived from the same tobacco as is the nicotine in e-cigarettes.
(Score: 2) by curunir_wolf on Saturday December 10 2016, @04:12PM
No, it's not incorrect. You can say that some e-liquid used in e-cigarettes are tobacco products. But it's disingenuous and a lie to put e-cigarettes into that category at all.
It's actually LESS accurate than claiming that vehicles are petroleum products. Yes, there are lots of vehicles that run on petroleum products, but many that do not. By claiming all vehicles are petroleum products you are inaccurately describing what they are.
I am a crackpot
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Sunday December 11 2016, @03:30AM
Let's go back to your statement:
[Electronic cigarettes] have no nicotine and no tobacco [is] used to create them.
Disposable electronic cigarettes, which come pre-filled with a fluid that can contain nicotine, exist. From the product page for Imperial Tobacco's blu eCigs:
This product contains nicotine derived from tobacco.
-- https://www.blu.com/en/US/e-cigs/blu-disposable [blu.com]
Veppos and Vapourlites also contain nicotine, although they don't disclose its source:
http://www.veppocig.com/disposable-e-cigs/ [veppocig.com]
http://www.vapourlites.com/disposable-electronic-cigarette.html [vapourlites.com]
You didn't qualify your statement with "some" or like wording; those are three examples that contradict it.
(Score: 2) by curunir_wolf on Sunday December 11 2016, @09:45PM
You didn't qualify your statement with "some" or like wording; those are three examples that contradict it.
For some reason, you are now holding me to a greater standard than you are holding the Surgeon General of the US. That really seems myopic.
Blu are products produced by the big tobacco companies playing "catch-up" to the e-cigarette market. Veppo is busy working to these onerous regulations [veppocig.com] which are being promoted with lies and pseudoscience. You are cherry-picking Veppo's products. One small portion of their offering contains nicotine, the vast majority do not.
And it's not "some". It's the vast majority of these products that are made without any tobacco. Tomatoes, eggplant, and other foods always contain nicotine. Should we call those tobacco products as well, even though they do not contain tobacco?
Why you want to defend the lies and deceit of these fascists bureaucrats is beyond me. I assume you are a marketing representative for big tobacco, or simply someone that is okay with eliminating these products and promoting death and suffering for the people that will resort to combustibles when they are gone.
I am a crackpot