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Caesar's wife must be above suspicion, but Trump's transition team and ultimately cabinet, seems rife with conflicts of ignorance. The Intercept reports that:
Palantir Technologies, the data mining company co-founded by billionaire and Trump transition advisor Peter Thiel, will likely assist the Trump Administration in its efforts to track and collect intelligence on immigrants, according to a review of public records by The Intercept. Since 2011, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency's Office of Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) has paid Palantir tens of millions of dollars to help construct and operate a complex intelligence system called FALCON, which allows ICE to store, search, and analyze troves of data that include family relationships, employment information, immigration history, criminal records, and home and work addresses.
I guess this is what happens when you elect a businessman to political office: they run it like a business.
Working closely with a President-elect who has pledged to dramatically expand ICE, Thiel's varied connections to the immigration agency place him in a position to potentially benefit financially from a deportation campaign that carries highly personal stakes for millions of Americans.
They always say: you have nothing to worry about, if you have nothing to hide.
Palantir, which is backed by the CIA's venture capital arm, did not respond to a request for comment regarding its ICE contracts and concerns over potential conflicts of interest. Peter Thiel spokesperson Jeremiah Hall declined to comment on a list of emailed queries, including a question asking whether Thiel has yet signed the Trump transition ethics agreement.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 13 2016, @08:36PM
First they came for the illegals, because they were illegal and it made sense.
Then about 1% of the illegals were actually legit citizens in the wrong place/wrong time and got shipped over the border.
I'm sure some japanese americans could give you a different perspective on why such tracking and deportation type activities are bad...
Here's a hint, its all a false flag. If they really wanted illegals out they would first punish companies that hire the illegals, and then they would increase the rounding up / checking for citizenship stuff they already do. Its just a divisive tactic using "illegal" to make such activities OK, then in the near future they'll have big media campaigns against "illegal protesters" and "illegal this that and the next thing we really don't like" and a huge portion of the population will eat it up with their "if you have nothing to hide why are you using encryption? Get back in your cell!"
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 13 2016, @08:50PM
about 1% of the illegals were actually legit citizens in the wrong place/wrong time
You don't even need to ask the Japanese Americans.
Operation Wetback and other deportation efforts resulted in at least a million citizens being forced to leave the country they were born in.
In total, it is estimated that two million people of Mexican ancestry were forcibly relocated to Mexico, approximately 1.2 million of whom had been born in the United States, including the State of California.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/05-06/bill/sen/sb_0651-0700/sb_670_bill_20051007_chaptered.html [ca.gov]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 13 2016, @08:54PM
But their parents were probably illegals so fuck em' anyway. THEY'RE NOT EVEN FROM ROUND HERE!! /s
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 14 2016, @12:07AM
"1.2 million of whom had been born in the United States"
YOu pinpoint yet another failure of the Senate and Congress. The specific law cited to grant citizenship to anyone born on our soil was never meant to make citizens of illegal aliens. It was meant to prevent the sons and daughters of former slaves from being denied citizenship. Anchor babies are not properly citizens. End of discussion.
(Score: 2) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Wednesday December 14 2016, @11:10AM
End of discussion.
Sorry, you don't get to call that.
The specific law cited to grant citizenship to anyone born on our soil was never meant to make citizens of illegal aliens. It was meant to ...
So you're saying that the wording of the law is irrelevant, only the intent behind it is what counts? If that's the case, why bother writing down laws at all? Yes, even the precise legal wording of a law or contract can often be bent by a clever lawyer, but I can tell you it's a hell of a lot less flexible than the nebulous "intent" of some politician who died a hundred years ago. Also, consider how many laws are passed with one "intent" but sold to the public under another. Drug prohibition laws in particular come to mind as interesting: What was the "intent" behind marijuana prohibition? Was it to protect the Christian Moral Values of America? Was it to protect the tobacco and cotton industries? Was it to feed the prison industry? Was it to provide a blunt instrument for the state to wield against those pesky blacks and hippies? Was it to keep the negroes from getting high and raping white women? Which of those intents should a prosecutor be trying to argue when he's got yet another stoner kid in the dock?
A day in court in RunawayLand would be an interesting day indeed.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 14 2016, @12:01PM
Section 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,
Any person who has a foreign embassy to represent him in court, is not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof". Mexico interferes in our judicial system routinely, protecting the "rights" of it's citizens. Dual citizenship be damned - he is either a citizen of the US or he is not. Like I said, end of discussion.
(Score: 2) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Wednesday December 14 2016, @12:21PM
If it's so cut and dried, why is it even up for discussion? Apparently there are some courts that think differently to you.
"subject to the jurisdiction thereof".
IANAL but I would read that as "anyone within the jurisdiction of the United States" - ie, anyone on US soil. If I, as a UK citizen, flew to the US tomorrow and went on a crime spree, I would expect to be tried[1] by the US courts, not by UK courts, because the crimes were committed within the geographical jurisdiction of the US legal system.
[1] This is all hypothetical, of course. I'm far too clever to get caught ;-)
Like I said, end of discussion.
Keep trying, maybe next time it will stick.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 14 2016, @02:29PM
Just because you told me to -
End of discussion.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 13 2016, @09:20PM
> If they really wanted illegals out they would first punish companies that hire the illegals,
Be careful what you wish for.
E-Verify [reason.com] makes the right to work conditional on government approval. Fear of the brown is the perfect wedge to cede the right to feed our families to the president. I don't care how important it is to deport illegals, its 1000x more important that Big Brother not be expanded to the point of having absolute control over everyone's livelihoods. Even an accuracy rate of 99.9% would still mean hundreds of thousands people unjustly blocked from employment.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 13 2016, @09:47PM
Oh I wasn't advocating they go further down the dark hole, just pointing out that they already have a system in place to deal with all of this and therefore this new "illegals" thing is just a witch hunt. We've been deporting them for years! Nothing has changed except they want to roll out the creepiest big brother tech to find humans by algorithm and privacy invasions. As someone else already mentioned, millions of legal citizens have already been deported!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 14 2016, @12:07AM
Illegal doesn't have a color.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 14 2016, @03:40AM
> Illegal doesn't have a color.
And as we all know, you don't see color either.
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Wednesday December 14 2016, @04:26AM
Japanese-Americans were held under the Alien Enemies Act, which is supposed to apply "whenever there shall be a declared war."
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/alien.asp [yale.edu]
The Congress has long been (properly) hesitant to declare war.