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posted by Fnord666 on Monday December 19 2016, @07:13PM   Printer-friendly
from the boring-doesn't-have-to-be-boring dept.

http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/12/elon-musk-hates-sitting-in-traffic-so-now-hes-going-to-build-tunnels/

Brunel had his ships. Trump had his walls. And now Musk wants to make... tunnels, tunnels under cities to reduce traffic congestion and make the world a better, cleaner, less rage-filled place.

Over the weekend, probably while sitting in traffic behind the wheel of an autonomous Tesla, Musk tweeted: "Traffic is driving me nuts. Am going to build a tunnel boring machine and just start digging." An hour later, probably while still sitting in traffic, giving him plenty of time to think of a witty pun, he declared: "It shall be called 'The Boring Company.' Boring, it's what we do."

And finally, an hour after that, just in case any of us were foolish enough to think the billionaire multi-CEO was joking, Musk said, "I am actually going to do this." He also changed his Twitter bio to include "Tunnels."

So, unless Musk was suffering from a prolonged bout of entrepreneurial road rage, we now know roughly how long it takes a pedigree industrialist to pick a new disruptible domain: two hours, give or take.

Tunnels are indeed a pretty good solution for traffic congestion, though they take a long time to build, and the construction usually causes a huge amount of disruption above ground—especially if those tunnels are being built in a metropolitan area, which is where you'll find most of the world's congestion.

Depending on the setting, it can be very difficult and expensive to build tunnels as well. Cut-and-cover—where you dig up an existing road, build a tunnel, and put the road back—is the only "cheap" tunnel building method, but it's so incredibly disruptive that most tunnels nowadays are built at deeper depths by automated tunnel boring machines (TBMs). Cost-wise, you're looking at about £1 billion per mile for TBMs: London's Crossrail, with 13 miles of new tunnel, will cost around £15 billion; Manhattan's second avenue subway line, with 8.5 miles of new tunnel, will cost about $17 billion. The costs are much lower if you just want to bore through a mountain—the just-completed 35-mile Gotthard Base Tunnel through the Alps in Switzerland cost a mere £10 billion (and took 17 years to build!)—but I doubt Musk has those kinds of tunnels in mind.


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  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday December 20 2016, @01:50AM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday December 20 2016, @01:50AM (#443488) Journal

    It is such a conspiracy. It's a joke. They could fix it right, once, and let it last for 40 years instead of having gaping potholes that take out tires and rims and closing off lanes of traffic on the highways to lay down another temporary layer of asphalt.

    I grouse about it to my in-laws, who grew up in NYC, and they think it's because there's so much traffic and because they have winter here. I pointed out there are no such decrepit roads out West, where the semi traffic is endless and the seasonal temperature swings are worse. They stare blankly.

    It is easy to perpetuate corruption when the people you're scamming don't even know you're corrupt...

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by tathra on Tuesday December 20 2016, @06:07AM

    by tathra (3367) on Tuesday December 20 2016, @06:07AM (#443576)

    you need more than just temperature swings to destroy roads. water gets down inside the pavement and then freezes and expands, tearing the road apart. repeat through several freeze/thaw cycles and you get a destroyed road. it doesnt matter how hot it gets, what matters is that it goes above and below freezing (and stays below freezing for a while) over and over again.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 20 2016, @09:21AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 20 2016, @09:21AM (#443645)

      Heat can soften asphalt.

    • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Tuesday December 20 2016, @01:50PM

      by LoRdTAW (3755) on Tuesday December 20 2016, @01:50PM (#443762) Journal

      That's exactly why they fail at the seams. The seams run both parallel with the road and diagonal. They do try to plug the seams with liquid tar but it never appears to work. The constant road salting plus winter temperatures that fluctuate above and below freezing on a daily basis destroys them. Even if it stays below freezing the salt keeps a fresh supply of liquid water seeping into those seams.