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posted by n1 on Tuesday December 20 2016, @01:22AM   Printer-friendly

BBC reports:

A lorry has ploughed into a busy Christmas market in the heart of Berlin, killing nine people and injuring many more, police say. Police say they suspect it was a deliberate attack. Video shows stalls knocked over and people lying injured. A suspicious person has been arrested nearby, while a passenger was found dead, police say. The market is at Breitscheidplatz, close to the Kurfuerstendamm, the main shopping street in the city's west. Chancellor Angela Merkel's spokesman, Steffen Seibert, tweeted to say: "We are in mourning for the dead and hope that the many injured can get help."

There are now reports from local police that 12 people have been confirmed killed in the attack.

https://twitter.com/polizeiberlin/status/810940347006197760


Reuters reports:

A man stormed into a Zurich mosque on Monday evening and opened fire on people praying, injuring three, Swiss police said.

They said they had collected evidence inside the building and would make more details available on Tuesday. They declined to comment on the potential motive.

Two of the three men -- aged 30, 35 and 56 -- were seriously injured in the attack shortly after 5:30 p.m. local time (1630 GMT) near the main train station in Switzerland's financial capital, Zurich police said.


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 20 2016, @02:18AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 20 2016, @02:18AM (#443501)

    Too late. It isn't about meddling for oil anymore - meddling set up the conditions, now they are somewhat self-sustaining. Its about the fact that west is the 800lb gorilla. A gorilla that can be lured and is used to sitting wherever it wants without caring who it crushes.

    The asshole wing of the religion sees the west as a big stick they can use to hit conventional muslims with. Like a lever and a fulcrum - kill enough westerners (the fulcrum) and the lever will swing and do 1000x the damage to regular muslims. ISIS is just itching to bait Trump [businessinsider.com] into doing something that will indiscriminately harm muslims. They think it will drive the more secular into the arms of the fundie assholes and those who don't join the fundies, well no loss they aren't "real" muslims anyway.

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  • (Score: 2) by archfeld on Tuesday December 20 2016, @03:19AM

    by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Tuesday December 20 2016, @03:19AM (#443519) Journal

    Without the need for oil, the 'west' could and would generally just abandon and ignore the middle east. Cease western supported air traffic and the financial influx generated by oil. That would dry up most of the funds used to arm and supply the terrorists. Without the outside focus on a 'common' enemy the various faction would fall into a vicious circle of hatred and the moderates would finally get tired of it and have them all put down.

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    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 20 2016, @03:37AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 20 2016, @03:37AM (#443528)

      its like you didn't read anything in the post you responded to and instead just posted a canned response of talking points
      who is paying you, or do you just do it as a hobby?

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Francis on Tuesday December 20 2016, @04:10AM

      by Francis (5544) on Tuesday December 20 2016, @04:10AM (#443539)

      We could, and ultimately, we do need to stop meddling in their affairs as the terrorism that we've been fighting is largely coming from the Middle East. There's also the domestic terrorists, but it seems a tad easier to deal with terrorists if you're not purposefully inflaming tensions to have cause to fund defense contractors.

      At this point, it should be clear to anybody with two brain cells to rub together that continuing to interfere isn't working. At this point there have been so many mistakes made in the region by various administrations that even if we do adopt the right strategy, they'll write it off as being a strategy rather than a heartfelt effort to help.

      Best thing would really be to just stop supplying weapons to the region, stop permitting companies to do business with the region and let nature take its course. Unfortunately, that would probably not work as we already allowed the Israelis to gain nuclear weapons and I don't doubt that they're crazy enough to use them.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 22 2016, @04:58PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 22 2016, @04:58PM (#444765)

        The solution is well-known but unpalatable to modern liberals: change the culture by force and/or just exterminate people

        For example, they could be forced to be outwardly Christian. All expressions of non-conformance get death by torture. After a few generations, it starts to actually stick, and you can let up on the brutality.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 23 2016, @05:45AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 23 2016, @05:45AM (#444952)

          Use the favoured muslim tactic against them? Good idea.
          We can start by forcing them to obey our laws.