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posted by janrinok on Friday December 23 2016, @04:13PM   Printer-friendly
from the it's-an-ill-wind-that-blows-no-good dept.

An overwhelming majority of scientists, including numerous UCLA researchers, agree that we have to take action to curb the effects of climate change.

UCLA Chancellor Gene Block joined leaders in higher education from more than 35 states today calling on incoming president Donald Trump's administration to protect the Earth's climate.

Chancellors and presidents from more than 170 colleges and universities signed on to the open letter calling for "aggressive climate action."

Trump has at times described climate change as a hoax and proposed withdrawing from the historic Paris climate agreement signed at the annual United Nations climate conference in 2015. An overwhelming majority of scientists, including numerous UCLA researchers, agree that climate change is caused by humans and will result in dramatic, disruptive changes within this century. UCLA research has projected that without drastic action, Los Angeles will heat up an average of 4 to 5 degrees by midcentury.

"As a university," Block said, "we have a deep commitment to research innovative solutions for tomorrow, to serve the greater public good and to educate the leaders of future generations. Strong federal and international climate action is critical to this mission."


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 24 2016, @12:44AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 24 2016, @12:44AM (#445316)

    Can you even write without using the strawman?

    Joe: "There's no such thing as global warming."

    Wrong right off the gate. Just absolutely completely wrong. Not even in the ballpark, fouled into someones car in the lot.

    Very few if any doubt that the global mean temperature, could we properly measure it, has risen for several decades. You'd have to stoop to Jerry Springer levels to find someone that would argue that there's no global warming.

    What we are skeptical of are the other parts of your creed. Are humans causing it, or is it part of some natural cycle? Or a mix of the two? Will it continue, or will it subside, or even reverse? To be just moderately sure of your answer, as an honest scientist, you would have to believe that you understand exactly how each and every factor affects all the others and plays out as a complex system. That's not a level of understanding even remotely attainable at the moment, new and relevant facts are being discovered on a regular basis, despite the confirmation bias that permeates the field!

  • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday December 28 2016, @03:03PM

    by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday December 28 2016, @03:03PM (#446712)

    Are humans causing it, or is it part of some natural cycle? Or a mix of the two?

    Only one of those 3 options means we should do nothing to slow it. So the prudent thing to do would be get to work on fixing the problem and figure out as we go, assuming that it will get worse. This is the sort of thing that probably has a point of no return, so if we stand around all day arguing about it, insisting on getting concrete, 110% sure, impossible-to-question (ha) evidence confirming it, it'll be next century before we get anywhere. And then we're probably past the point of no return and most reasonable people get to say "see, we told you so," but it won't really matter anymore.

    To be just moderately sure of your answer, as an honest scientist, you would have to believe that you understand exactly how each and every factor affects all the others and plays out as a complex system. That's not a level of understanding even remotely attainable at the moment, new and relevant facts are being discovered on a regular basis, despite the confirmation bias that permeates the field!

    Yeah, exactly. Let's all stick our heads in the sand because it's expensive.

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    "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
  • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday December 28 2016, @03:05PM

    by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday December 28 2016, @03:05PM (#446715)

    Very few if any doubt that the global mean temperature, could we properly measure it, has risen for several decades.

    Funny, because you're sure using a hell of a lot of weasel words to avoid saying you do.

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    "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"