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posted by janrinok on Friday December 23 2016, @10:10PM   Printer-friendly
from the pause-for-thought dept.

Bridging the gap between left and right. I came across this clip showing Glenn Beck and Samantha Bee, and thought that this SoylentNews story / comment thread should be stickied till the new year so we have an ongoing conversation. It's a short clip from her show where Glenn Beck is a willing guest; the key point is they are trying to find common ground. Beck points out that Bee is following some of his own patterns of crying "catastrophe" but they really don't provide much insight beyond the significance of their little coming together moment.

The divide is clear and present on this site as most everywhere else, I would like to see a meta discussion where we fact check each other and drill down through the rhetoric until we get some straightforward lists and proposals on how we can move forward together. What are the fundamental blockers? Which ideas do we consider to be too outrageous for credibility? Many here are guilty of attacking each other — can we try and Spock it out for about a week?

I'll start us off with my supposition:

Climate change is real and human activity has an important effect on it. We must agree on this point in order to move forward, and social/economic issues must be handled after needed environmental changes."

If you post as AC — try and behave as if you were logged in — reduce the flames for better quality discussion.


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  • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Friday December 23 2016, @11:30PM

    by mhajicek (51) on Friday December 23 2016, @11:30PM (#445286)

    I have a coworker who believes that the whole climate change thing is a conspiracy to male him pay more for his energy and vehicles. He believes that much of the data is falsified.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday December 24 2016, @02:18AM

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday December 24 2016, @02:18AM (#445361) Homepage

    Californians are pressured socially and financially to conserve water, while water usages rates climb 10% a year. Whole neighborhoods are gutting their lawns and landscaping with rocks and cacti instead.

    Meanwhile, growth is accelerating here unchecked, with mega-monstrosity housing developments popping up everywhere. Just how is the state conserving water by allowing such development, and why isn't the state seeking to put the brakes on development if we have such a water crisis?

    To use a rather "wet" analogy, those who tell you to conserve water while accepting skyrocketing water rates are pissing on your head and telling you it's raining.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 24 2016, @04:18AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 24 2016, @04:18AM (#445403)

    I have a coworker who believes that

    Don't we all, and isn't that nice. Idiots are not evidence of anything except idiocy. Take Francis here for example!