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posted by janrinok on Friday December 23 2016, @10:10PM   Printer-friendly
from the pause-for-thought dept.

Bridging the gap between left and right. I came across this clip showing Glenn Beck and Samantha Bee, and thought that this SoylentNews story / comment thread should be stickied till the new year so we have an ongoing conversation. It's a short clip from her show where Glenn Beck is a willing guest; the key point is they are trying to find common ground. Beck points out that Bee is following some of his own patterns of crying "catastrophe" but they really don't provide much insight beyond the significance of their little coming together moment.

The divide is clear and present on this site as most everywhere else, I would like to see a meta discussion where we fact check each other and drill down through the rhetoric until we get some straightforward lists and proposals on how we can move forward together. What are the fundamental blockers? Which ideas do we consider to be too outrageous for credibility? Many here are guilty of attacking each other — can we try and Spock it out for about a week?

I'll start us off with my supposition:

Climate change is real and human activity has an important effect on it. We must agree on this point in order to move forward, and social/economic issues must be handled after needed environmental changes."

If you post as AC — try and behave as if you were logged in — reduce the flames for better quality discussion.


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 24 2016, @01:16AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 24 2016, @01:16AM (#445338)

    We also need to look into some of the historical backgrounds of social views in the US.

    In some ways, Britain was annoyed, but happy for the US - they had somewhere for the Quakers, Puritans, Calvanists, convicts, etc to go to now - they could export some of their social problem children.

    So here we are now...

    I don't think it's really inbred in people, but it does seem to be a long-living bunch of self-reinforcing/self-perpetuating memes that keep it going. Those memes are all over the map.

    In 5 or so years, when some of these automated systems [cars, trucks, buses] take off, and automated systems really start to make inroads into all sort of white collar jobs [IT, analysts, programmers, mid-level management], thus displacing a LOT of people used to being able to live off of other people's backs, and thus moving some of the blue collar angst further up the food chain, as it were, it'll really bring some of those things about us to an interesting head.

    Obviously, I do not forsee myself fitting into or being allowed into the Elysium class, so... District 9 it will be for me.

    At least for awhile, it'll make trickle-down "someone's peein' on my back and calling it rain" economics look pretty good...

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