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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday December 27 2016, @06:14PM   Printer-friendly
from the The-Force-will-be-with-you,-always. dept.

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Carrie Fisher, the actress best known as Star Wars' Princess Leia Organa, has died after suffering a heart attack. She was 60.

Family spokesman Simon Halls released a statement to PEOPLE on behalf of Fisher's daughter, Billie Lourd:

"It is with a very deep sadness that Billie Lourd confirms that her beloved mother Carrie Fisher passed away at 8:55 this morning," reads the statement.

"She was loved by the world and she will be missed profoundly," says Lourd. "Our entire family thanks you for your thoughts and prayers."

Source: http://people.com/movies/carrie-fisher-dies/

[UPDATE:]

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NPR reports: Actress Debbie Reynolds Dies A Day After Daughter Carrie Fisher's Death.

That means that Billie Lourd, who had a minor role in Star Wars: The Force Awakens and was slated for a part in the sequel, Star Wars: Episode VIII, lost both her mother and her grandmother in the same week.


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  • (Score: 2) by Dunbal on Wednesday December 28 2016, @01:56AM

    by Dunbal (3515) on Wednesday December 28 2016, @01:56AM (#446528)

    CPR is almost never effective and yet we train people on it.

    Incorrect. CPR is 70% effective if applied in the first minute of cardiac arrest. That is a lot closer to "almost always" than "almost never". You seriously want to argue that something 70% effective is just as significant as something 20% effective go right ahead but that doesn't make you right.

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  • (Score: 1) by Francis on Wednesday December 28 2016, @08:25AM

    by Francis (5544) on Wednesday December 28 2016, @08:25AM (#446588)

    It's 70% if it's applied within minutes, by professionals at a hospital. It's more or less zero if you're in the backcountry. Other situations are somewhere between, but CPR alone works 14% of the time, but even then, it's highly dependent upon having the care to back it up promptly. Usually, a crash cart.

    So yes, it's pretty much ineffective, you're not going to bring somebody back with CPR alone in most cases. The efficacy of CPR is completely dependent upon eeking out enough time for professionals to arrive with things like the crash cart and oxygen. It's hardly relevant to the situation where somebody is onboard a plane without immediate access to the ICU and as others have stated oxygen.

    It's rather dishonest to over-inflate the numbers because it's not convenient to the argument you're looking to make. I wouldn't personally consider 1/7 to be very good odds, especially not when technology is available to significantly improve the likelihood of survival. Even there, that 1/7 makes assumptions about the people who are performing it doing it right, and often times they don't.

    • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday December 28 2016, @01:00PM

      by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday December 28 2016, @01:00PM (#446648)

      It depends a lot on how cardiac arrest started. If it's a due to a clogged artery, then it doesn't help much because the heart can't restart, so the chest compressions are the only thing moving blood around. If, on the other hand, it's that the electrical signals stopped because of a lightning strike or other kind of electric shock, then the odds are much better, because once the blood is flowing the electrical signals can start again (in this situation, defibrillator is preferred, but if you don't have one, CPR is worth trying).

      My sister has been a wilderness-certified EMT, and is now about to graduate med school with a specialization in emergency medicine. CPR is absolutely worth trying if you're out of other options. Like any other procedure, it doesn't always work. Losing patients is part of the job when you're doing this professionally, even if you do everything right, but that effort improves the odds.

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