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Seems someone got the whole thing seriously wrong, but evidently there was a casting call for actors for a Cadillac commercial that was looking for "alt-right" or "neo-nazi" types.
Cadillac caused a stir this week when a casting service put out a request on behalf of the American luxury brand looking to fill the role of an "alt-right (neo-Nazi)" in a new commercial. Cadillac denied it had ever authorized the notice and condemned it, while the casting company took responsibility, saying that it had been issued by mistake. Regardless of who did what, the idea had to have been hatched somewhere and by someone, which reveals something far more troubling than a mere streak of poor taste and even poorer judgement in corporate America: the marketability and mainstreaming of an alt-right population, or those "identified variously with anti-globalist and anti-immigrant stances, cartoon frogs, white nationalists, pick-up artists, anti-Semites, and a rising tide of right-wing populism," as Tablet contributor Jacob Siegel wrote in a profile of Paul Gottfried, the alt-right's "godfather."
Hmm, maybe now that the "alt-right" has become just another marketing demographic, we do not have to worry about them taking over the country? I mean, who buys Cadillacs as a status symbol anymore? Not like they are your father's Oldsmobile. Except that, really, it was your father's Olds. So that brand no longer exists. Are we at the point where we can say, "Brietbart: it's not your grandpa's fascism!"? Except, really, maybe it is?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by cubancigar11 on Friday December 30 2016, @09:34AM
This is Americanism at its finest - grouping together under loosely defined definitions and then name-calling and bad-mouthing each other. This is what American politics brings to the table of democracy. And sadly, most of the times by force.
Alt-right is not Nazi, neo- or alt-. Liberals love to call everyone else Nazi, though, all [nytimes.com] the time [theguardian.com]. Nothing new.
The reason for this is that liberals love double-think. They not only think of themselves as "intellectual", they need to indulge in this kind of inaccurate propaganda to nudge "others" in the "right direction", and yet they don't think they are being used in the same way. The other thing communists world over want is to indoctrinate students even though it hasn't worked in long term anywhere.
I think it is time the moderates to wake up and realize the amount of propaganda that is constantly being poured into their ears. You will be surprised how much the rhetoric of Trump matches that of Marx. It is time reading became an important part of education and not your political correctness.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @09:55AM
It is time more people remember that!
Individual states may be more or less democratic, but the country as a whole is NOT A DEMOCRACY under any sane definition of 'democracy'.
The sooner people realize and understand this the sooner we can move forward on:
'Should we be a democracy?'
'Is it time to rethink this union our forefathers signed up for, voluntarily or under duress.'
and 'Is it time for segregation on the county/state/regional boundaries of majority political party?'
One we stop tiptoeing around the REAL issues of America we can get down to the business of what 'the people' actually want.
(Score: 1) by Bethany.Saint on Friday December 30 2016, @11:35AM
Good humor. I especially how you reverse the name calling when Fox News in the Glen Beck era mainstreamed the entire idea of calling liberals Nazis.
Write down the top dozen or so traits of the Nazis. Now write down the top dozen or so traits of Liberals. And finally, the top dozen or so traits for the Alt-Right. Now see which groups have the most in common. Nope, no overlap between the Alt-Right and the Nazis at all! Clearly, Liberals are Double Plus Ungood!
(Score: 4, Interesting) by cubancigar11 on Friday December 30 2016, @12:54PM
If you would have checked those links you wouldn't have made that mistake.
More importantly, the gist of my post was the difference between powerful and powerless, and believe it or not liberals have been in power for very long.
Traits of liberals:
Demand of censorship? Check.
Government enforced discrimination? Check.
Government overruling individual rights? Check.
Getting in cahoots with industry to further political agenda? Check.
Traits of alt-right:
Not republican, not a liberal. Check.
Traits of Nazism:
Getting in cahoots with industry to further political agenda? Check.
There is no philosophy of alt-right because alt-right is a term given to the most powerless conservatives by those who are in power.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Bethany.Saint on Friday December 30 2016, @01:55PM
What is this, the Bizarro world? Everything you stated was the opposite of reality?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Friday December 30 2016, @02:26PM
Maybe in whatever alternate dimension you live in. Here, on the real earth, CubanCigar usually has things pegged pretty accurately.
For instance - there is no "alt-right". The so-called "alt-right" are just regular people, pushing back against the demoplicans and the republicrats who have been abusing them for decades. All those in power had a great time poking fun at "tea baggers". At least then, there actually was an organized group. "Alt-right"? There's no such thing. It's a moronic term made up to describe "all those people who haven't been intimidated into toeing the party line".
Instead of "alt-right", how about "independent"???
(Score: 5, Informative) by mcgrew on Friday December 30 2016, @03:25PM
The alt-right are people who think (according to the man who coined the word who is an unabashed racist and white nationalist) that whites are superior to everyone else and demand the right to call people "niggers" and "fags" but object to being called racist or biased.
You say "politically correct", I say "polite and respectful". Not calling black people "niggers" is NOT being "politically correct", and calling them "niggers" is not civilized behavior.
Nor is bragging that you can assault women because you're a rich asshole, like your disgusting billionaire you voted for.
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(Score: 2, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Friday December 30 2016, @03:53PM
"like your disgusting billionaire you voted for"
I wasn't aware that Johnson is a billionaire.
https://soylentnews.org/breakingnews/comments.pl?sid=16416&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=424539#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
You, McGrew, seem to be far to smart to lump me with any group, just because I disagree with American style liberals/progressives/democrats. I've come to expect that out of the denser portions of the left. I even expect it from the more obtuse members of the right. But, you? Come on, man.
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Saturday December 31 2016, @06:12PM
That was a plural "you", you've mentioned being a Johnson supporter before. BTW, we've had three President Johnsons so far, and all three did crappy jobs. Fourth time's a charm?
Out of four viable choices, we picked the worst one (again, a collective "we", not you or me).
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @04:04PM
Inaccurate [tabletmag.com]
While calling conservatives white supremacists?
It could have been worse, fortunately neither Bill Clinton nor Bill Cosby were on the ticket.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @10:05PM
Then we should obey his definition and people should stop using "alt-right" to label people who voted straight ticket Republican like they do every year, people who want to play video games without people screaming how terrible they are, people who want to dress up for Halloween, etc. etc. I can do all that and still not call people the n-word, assault women or demand they stay in the kitchen, or whatever else you're thinking of.
Because none of those things have anything at all to do with white superiority, except insofar as certain snowflakes feel microaggressed if someone, somewhere enjoys something not approved by their superior PC squad.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Bethany.Saint on Friday December 30 2016, @03:44PM
This is where I pity you and bid you all farewell. You, CubanCigar, and the Alt-Right really and truly believe this is true. It is not! You're like the addict who doesn't know that they have a problem. There's nothing more I can say to you except to advise you to get a wider perspective. You need to see outside of your bubble. If you can't even ALLOW YOURSELF TO ADMIT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM then there's no way YOU CAN ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE HELPED.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Friday December 30 2016, @03:57PM
ROFLMAO - the addicts are found on the left, as well. The vocal few have been clamoring for years, and getting their way, in regards to race relations. Those vocal few don't LISTEN to the common man and woman on the street. All they can do is squawk and bitch about how evil the common man is. Well - the common man spoke. You may listen, or you may continue to only hear what you choose to hear from your echo chamber.
There is no alt-right, as you visualize it. There is only pushback from the masses who are tired of the ridiculous left agendas.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @06:32PM
It is amusing how you imagine "the masses" to all be wackos like you and cubancigar. The truth is the both of you are in the minority, and your fellow ideologues are all upset that they are on the way out. Your group is typified by close minded horse blinders, and no amount of name calling or truth proclaiming with make reality different. There is a ton of latent racism, and good bit of actual racism, and a huge amount of nationalistic rhetoric.. Trump was the unique candidate that many thought would bring about needed change, don't confuse that sliver of hope for lots of people supporting your crazy. Also, Clinton won the popular vote and the turnout was so low that true Trumpets are less than 20% of the country.
"The left agendas".... For a while I thought you were a bipartisan conservative, but you show your real colors. It really is right vs. left with you, Cuban, and a lot of others. There is no discussion, just right/wrong. You and your ilk are the types who will gladly cut off their own noses to spite their faces... Enjoy your pyrrhic victory while you can, were gonna ramp up 10x more in the next 4 years as a whole new group of young peoe get to vote and throw out the last vestiges if old crotchety paternalistic bigots. Cause yes, that is what your group is. Bigots that come in various shades from "accidental cultural hold overs" to "outright racist shitbags".
The "liberal" and "conservative" policies are often just ideological calls to action which get misused for corrupt policies. You help your masters when you push the divide further with bullshit like "push back from the masses who are tired of the ridiculous left agenda". Maybe try learning more about the world, preferably from sources that don't play to your confirmation bias.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday December 30 2016, @07:48PM
It's also amusing that you can't read - https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=17216&cid=447455 [soylentnews.org]
As I state in that post - you, on the left, and others on the right, look at me. You know that I'm not in YOUR camp, so you presume that I have to be from the opposing camp. And, meanwhile, as I stated, the masees grow sick of your juvenile games. Left, and right - get it?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 31 2016, @12:27AM
The vocal few have been clamoring for years, and getting their way, in regards to race relations. Those vocal few don't LISTEN to the common man and woman on the street.
Listen, you fucking unreconstructed Confederate, the South lost the fucking war, you are now no longer "common", you are a complete minority! Take your fucking racism and stuff it up your cloaca , you fucking rooster! Trump's election is a call for a second Reconstruction, since evidently the first one didn't take.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by cubancigar11 on Friday December 30 2016, @06:20PM
Now read this very carefully because I am going to tell you something about myself and hopefully it will tell you something about yourself.
I am not white. I am not American. I am not European. I have lived for quite many years in Europe. I have my family ties with people who are married to white European women and most of my college friends are living all over the world. I have lived for around 6 months in USA. I cannot vote in USA elections but such is the power of USA that my government is directly effected by it, my language is effected by it via media and my thinking is effected by it via reading too much crap online. And there is a lot of crap like the one you posted. I am not even christian. And there are many like me. Most of my friends were south American (not Mexican, though) and my best friends were black, both Nigerian who hated each other. I digress.
I have some opinions. I consider myself left to the center. I was raised by a feminist mother and my father is university professor. There are a couple of issues that I don't agree with on-point with liberals, i.e., the communist deconstruction of the world. The first time I mentioned it on Twitter, I was told that I support Broke Turner, was compared to some white dude who killed some people (I never bothered to research it, my country doesn't allow people to have guns so it is of no use to me). I was told I am alt-right.
Now you tell me that alt-right was coined by some dude you hate. And you tell me it is because you are not racist and that guy is. You know what? Both of you are racists and that is the fact. When I left Europe back in 2010 I proclaimed out loudly that Right is coming and it is coming fast and I was proven right (forgive the pun). You know why? Because you are not liberal. Liberalism is just a hammer for you to put down other people so you can feel good about yourself, to make yourself feel superior and maybe powerful after a resounding defeat. You know who is liberal? Every poor man is liberal because he doesn't have time to think about other people. Children are liberal for they don't care much about ego. Liberalism is by nature politically correct - IT IS EASY.
It is YOU who gave importance to whoever coined the term alt-right. It is YOU who gave alt-right a personality. It is my civil-disobedience to accept that personality and then show you what it really looks like. You and very disappointingly mcgrew have shown exactly what I mentioned in the very first line of my comment: grouping together under loosely defined definitions and then name-calling and bad-mouthing each other. I have never been a racist - I challenge anyone to show anything racist I have said. YOU have called me alt-right. Ergo alt-right is not racist. QED. But you don't have the balls to go to some politician and say - "you are wrong, alt-right is not what you say, it is different". YOU are his supporter. It is EASY for you to say otherwise to me.
THIS IS why Trump is there and world is still not going ape-shit insane. Democrats made him, not just by funding but by literally running his campaign for him. And also, you fight incorrectness with correctness, you fight correctness with political correctness. For as long as Trump is president you should remember that you cannot fight incorrectness with political correctness, because Truth doesn't need adjective, much less one named "political".
I have been called nigger by many who agree with me on the points that actually matter to me. I also stand with many who hate being called the n-word but agree with me. The racists are no worse than the many liberals who would throw me under rock for being "almost certainly not a she" (the same people who will say women are biologically no different than men, thereby showing their double-think).
This is what is called projection [wikipedia.org] which happens very frequently with the politically correct. Lecture about getting a wider perspective, from a guy who doesn't even know his own goddamn local politics. Seriously, with the amount of disappointment liberals have with their countrymen, why are they so much for gun control?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 31 2016, @12:39AM
> You know what? Both of you are racists and that is the fact.
Yeah. He who smelt it dealt it!
We all know that's how racism works.
#whitegermicide
(Score: 2) by fubari on Saturday December 31 2016, @08:44AM
Cubancigar11, nicely written, very interesting. You have given me some interesting things to think about - thank you.
(Score: 5, Informative) by mcgrew on Friday December 30 2016, @03:19PM
That's because he hates both people of color and being called "nazi". That, friends, is the "alt-right". He (almost certainly not a she) has always voted either LP or GOP and actually believes that hateful bullshit.
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(Score: 3, Touché) by cubancigar11 on Friday December 30 2016, @05:28PM
Wow. I hate people of color? Let me make some guesses about you. You are white. You are well to do.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @07:01PM
Yup, this is what happens when you engage in stupid generalities. Start calling out your most hated preconceptions about "liberals" and get the same back at yourself...
(Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Friday December 30 2016, @07:11PM
This is what happens when you don't read to understand, you just skip reading.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @07:38PM
This is what happens when you decide your irrational beliefs are actually self-evident truths.
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday December 30 2016, @10:33PM
I'm going to post high-up because lazy. And others have held down the trolling portion of the discussion pretty damn good. But speaking of generalities, the summary implies that Cadillac is an obsolete brand associated with grannies.
A word search for "Cadillac" revealed nothing outside of the summary, it's not in any comments, so I'll make one. The Cadillac brand is not only associated with stodgy White grandparents, but also younger niggers with too much unearned money on their hands. It's why the Cadillac Escalade is the SUV of choice for the up-and-coming nigger after being cut his first check from Levy Goldstein's rap record label or from the NBA during their rookie season.
But there is another demographic to which Cadillac is trying to pander now -- the young professional Catholic. This is why the Cadillacs in all recent ads are colored black, and fairly recently in Wired magazine I saw an ad which additionally featured four faces -- all implied Catholics as there were no female or tranny faces. The four faces were two respectable White men, one token Black man, and a token nu-male with an obnoxious haircut and thick-rimmed glasses; but all clean-shaven and stoic with no real facial expression in the true Catholic fashion. It's hard to decide if Catholics prefer driving shiny black limos-without-the-limo-part or hearses-without-the-hearse-part.
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Saturday December 31 2016, @06:09PM
You're half right. I'm a retired lower middle class white. I also know a lot of poor people of most races, and I also have a lot of racist white friends. Many of them are very poor, some have been to prison.
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @03:55PM
What is this, the Bizarro world?
Yes.
Everything you stated was the opposite of reality?
No, it's the opposite of the dictionary. If I may paraphrase W. Churchill, "the fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists".
(Score: 4, Informative) by fritsd on Friday December 30 2016, @04:12PM
You wrote:
That's not correct I think. Liberals, in the spirit of Thorbecke [wikipedia.org] (sorry, I don't know his contemporaries and like-minded politicians in 19th century USA),
are for equal rights (even for women in the 20th century) and freedom of speech and religion, so your traits 1 2 and 3 don't apply.
Trait 4 in cahoots with industry is correct I think for the right-wing liberals (economic right, social liberal) such as the VVD in the Nethelands, but less so for the left-wing liberals (economic centre-left, social liberal) such as D'66 in the Netherlands (both represented in ALDE [wikipedia.org] at european level so it's mixed up).
Now if you compare those 4 traits with the famous Umberto Eco shopping list from 1995 [google.com], I think they clearly correspond with his numbers
censorship: 4, 14
discrimination: 5, 12
overruling rights: 13, 7, 10
industry: couldn't really find in Eco's essay
(I gave the Google search link to the Ur-Fascism essay, because I couldn't use the primary source, NY review of books. I've got the essay on my computer so I must have one year downloaded it from somewhere :-) )
You could claim: "the people calling themselves "liberals" in the USA, are not, they're actually kind of fascists", but please don't re-define a word for a 150 year old political movement just because after that Procrustes treatment, it fits your agenda. It confuses.
(Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Saturday December 31 2016, @06:15PM
Sorry for replying late. I may be wrong in my choice of words. Please forgive me. The liberalism you quote is what I actually call the snatching of victory for individual rights from the oppressive system humanity created to keep those damn carnivorous animals, insects, diseases and other natural forces at bay, so it could procreate in a safe environment. But you have to look at current political climate and the things that get done in the name of liberalism.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @03:46PM
What a brain-dead argument, you could make anyone be literally Hitler with that by selectively plugging values in.
Write down the top dozen or so traits of the Stalinists. Now write down the top dozen or so traits of Conservatives. And finally, the top dozen or so traits for the Liberals.
Write down the top dozen or so traits of Cthulhu. Now write down the top dozen or so traits of bees. And finally, the top dozen or so traits for the humans.
Write down the top dozen or so traits of the suicide bombers. Now write down the top dozen or so traits of nuns. And finally, the top dozen or so traits for the cake makers.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @12:25PM
This is Americanism at its finest - grouping together under loosely defined definitions and then name-calling and bad-mouthing each other.
That sure doesn't stop you from badmouthing "liberals", though.
(Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Friday December 30 2016, @12:56PM
So what shall I do? Create further groups inside liberals? Progressives may be? Communists? Marxists? Far-left? Radical left? Maoists?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday December 30 2016, @01:06PM
Using the word liberal to refer to a democrat is wrong to begin with. They aren't. Liberals value liberty, democrats most assuredly do not.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Friday December 30 2016, @01:35PM
I purposefully didn't call it democrat because that is a localized American thing while liberalism is a global political machinery. There is indeed a difference between political liberals and actual people who value liberty. I suppose the right word to use is "Left" (for whatever mileage it gives).
(Score: 4, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday December 30 2016, @01:57PM
It's a highly inaccurate term currently though. There is nothing liberal about liberals. Progressives would be a better term. It just means they want change, without specifying what. The only true liberals in the U.S. lately are libertarians.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Friday December 30 2016, @04:01PM
I'm being redundant, but "liberal" has to do with generosity, not liberty ("a liberal portion"). The libertarians are indeed for liberty, but you can't say someone who doesn't want their taxes to be used for feeding the poor a "liberal". Not wanting to help the poor is past conservative and well into stingy.
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(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday December 31 2016, @11:39AM
Lemme splain. No, is too much, lemme sum up.
Libertarians are opposed to theft. Charity is a fine thing but charity is voluntary. Robbing citizens at gunpoint and giving what they have earned to someone else is not charity; it is organized crime wherein the criminals are the ones receiving the money and their lower ranked thugs are the ones collecting it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Saturday December 31 2016, @06:17PM
That is one thing I disagree with the LP about. Nobody's going to volunteer to pay for roads, schools, enactment and enforcement of laws. You're not being robbed at gunpoint, you're paying the price of the civilization you enjoy living in.
It's not a robbery, it's a moral, ethical, and legal transaction. And you're probably not, but I'm a Christian, and Christ said "pay your taxes" (in a colorful way).
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(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 01 2017, @12:45AM
Believe it or not, it IS possible to fund a government without holding death or imprisonment over people's heads.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Sunday January 01 2017, @03:23AM
Pay what you owe, it's that simple.
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(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 01 2017, @11:17AM
I don't owe. Neither do you. That's the entire point. When someone comes up unasked and smears your windshield with grease and newsprint at a stoplight, you do not owe them for "cleaning" your windshield. Ditto the government's sad attempts at services.
The government is quite capable of funding itself without perpetrating extortion upon its citizens. That it chooses not to does not obligate those being stolen from to feel the need to assist in the theft.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Wednesday January 04 2017, @10:12PM
Yes, you do. You cast a vote for someone to represent you, and if you don't like their laws, you vote against them. This isn't North Korea; if it were, I'd agree with you.
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(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday January 04 2017, @11:26PM
Your fellow citizens voting to steal what is yours at threat of death or imprisonment is no more legitimate than stealing it themselves; it's simply organized crime instead of disorganized. That you refuse to see this tells me you're one of the thieves.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Friday December 30 2016, @03:57PM
I used to think "liberal" meant "liberty" long ago, too, but I realized that the other side of the coin is "conservative". A liberal is someone who is generous, a conservative is someone who is stingy.
At least, that's what the dictionary says.
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(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @06:03PM
You're using the wrong dictionary.
Those are specific terms in the field of political science.
Liberal is opposed to authoritarian, not conservative. Conservative is opposed to radical.
Progressive, for what it's worth, is opposed to reactionary.
It's quite possible to be a conservative liberal.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @07:06PM
Maybe call out the political figure heads using ideological agendas to push through their own crony policies. Is that too big of a task, or do you require further emotional satisfaction by attacking the bogeyman? Maybe realize they exist on both sides of the isle?
(Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Friday December 30 2016, @07:20PM
I am very sure they exist on both sides. But when both sides are not on my side, I would rather be with the one who is losing until my support becomes crucial.
This is exactly what Marx said. And not just the bogeyman Marx of ****** and republicans, but this is literally exactly what he wrote.
(Score: 2) by fritsd on Friday December 30 2016, @09:10PM
Have you heard of the "political compass" [politicalcompass.org]? It helps. Liberals can be economic left or economic right (most are economic right neo-liberalists).
Left and Right are about economic structure, from communism to socialism to capitalism/neoliberalism
Authoritarian and Liberal are about social structure, from authoritarian/conservative to libertarian/progressive.
on the left menu on the website under "region specific" you can find what the (anonymous?) authors of politicalcompass.org think about the USA 2016 candidates [politicalcompass.org].
Before you say "that compass is also bullshit": they know already, it's in the FAQ:
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday December 30 2016, @09:16PM
That's way too complicated for these auto-fellating morons. Hell, just the idea of there being a one-dimensional spectrum, rather than two points on either end, strains what passes for their brains.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @10:22PM
So what shall I do? Create further groups inside liberals?
By all means! Knock yourself out! I prefer "doo-doo head". Works for kids! Or alternatively, you could just say, " I hate you Daddy, I hate you!!
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Thexalon on Friday December 30 2016, @06:11PM
So what exactly is it? What are the core ideas of the alt-right ideology? What makes alt-right ideology different from just plain right-wing ideology? What moral principles are you starting from?
If we're going to no-true-Scotsman the criticism away, at the very least we need to know what would qualify as a "true Scotsman".
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Friday December 30 2016, @06:47PM
Individualism. And that rights of individual have been fought by too much blood to shed it at the alter of better things.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @07:45PM
> Individualism.
Gee, that's not what they've got to say for themselves. In fact, that's pretty much the exact opposite of how they define themselves because, as the mighty buttload is fond of telling everyone, racism is the opposite of individualism.
If you only know of the alt right from The_Donald, then do not know what the alt right is. You probably think it means something along the lines of cultural libertarianism or just being "more conservative". It doesn't. It doesn't mean anti-establishment right leaning politics either. We do not agree with Conservatives ideologically and we are not people who are just trying to do conservativism "better".
The Alt Right is a racial movement and has always been a racial movement. Race is at the very core of the alt right and there is absolutely no way to be alt right without discussing racial realism, especially from a white perspective. The mainstream media was not lying to you when they said we are full of white nationalists, racial realists, and fascists. That is what we are and we really do not give a shit about tax cuts or other policy issues.
https://www.reddit.com/r/altright/comments/4zr372/to_the_new_subscribers_coming_from_rthe_donald/ [reddit.com]
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Friday December 30 2016, @07:46PM
Assuming you consider yourself a member of the "alt-right", that can't be correct: You've announced that definition using the collectivist computer network, powered by the collectivist electrical power grid, and some sort of computing device probably produced by some kind of collective effort like a major corporation and their suppliers, that you almost definitely got by trading some kind of socially-defined currency for, probably using a connection you also traded some kind of socially-defined currency for. You probably also acquired that socially-defined currency by working at some kind of job for a collective organization. So, as I see it, you have indeed decided to make all kinds of sacrifices to individual liberty at the altar of better things.
So, since your own behavior established that that wasn't what "alt-right" really means, what does "alt-right" really mean?
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @07:54PM
For people like cubancigar, "individualism" in practice is really just a synonym for "my tribal identity" - much like Henry Ford's old slogan that you can have your car painted in any color you want as long as its black.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @10:33PM
rights of individual have been fought by too much blood to shed it at the alter of better things.
These are not the fascists you are looking for! Alt-right is not individualist, it is right communitarian. It wants to use the power of the state to control those it deems (((cubancigars)))!! So you should be afraid, very afraid.
So, alt-right grammar says that rights have not been fought by blood, unless you are saying "Blut und Ehre", and that blood trumps (heh) individual rights, equality, and the rule of law. And, "alter" means change, to change to better things is progressivism. You meant "altar"? You went to college, eh? And totally avoided learning how to spell? Nazi.