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posted by on Friday December 30 2016, @09:17AM   Printer-friendly
from the will-provide-tattoos-for-right-applicant dept.

Seems someone got the whole thing seriously wrong, but evidently there was a casting call for actors for a Cadillac commercial that was looking for "alt-right" or "neo-nazi" types.

Cadillac caused a stir this week when a casting service put out a request on behalf of the American luxury brand looking to fill the role of an "alt-right (neo-Nazi)" in a new commercial. Cadillac denied it had ever authorized the notice and condemned it, while the casting company took responsibility, saying that it had been issued by mistake. Regardless of who did what, the idea had to have been hatched somewhere and by someone, which reveals something far more troubling than a mere streak of poor taste and even poorer judgement in corporate America: the marketability and mainstreaming of an alt-right population, or those "identified variously with anti-globalist and anti-immigrant stances, cartoon frogs, white nationalists, pick-up artists, anti-Semites, and a rising tide of right-wing populism," as Tablet contributor Jacob Siegel wrote in a profile of Paul Gottfried, the alt-right's "godfather."

Hmm, maybe now that the "alt-right" has become just another marketing demographic, we do not have to worry about them taking over the country? I mean, who buys Cadillacs as a status symbol anymore? Not like they are your father's Oldsmobile. Except that, really, it was your father's Olds. So that brand no longer exists. Are we at the point where we can say, "Brietbart: it's not your grandpa's fascism!"? Except, really, maybe it is?


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @12:25PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @12:25PM (#447379)

    This is Americanism at its finest - grouping together under loosely defined definitions and then name-calling and bad-mouthing each other.

    That sure doesn't stop you from badmouthing "liberals", though.

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  • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Friday December 30 2016, @12:56PM

    by cubancigar11 (330) on Friday December 30 2016, @12:56PM (#447386) Homepage Journal

    So what shall I do? Create further groups inside liberals? Progressives may be? Communists? Marxists? Far-left? Radical left? Maoists?

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday December 30 2016, @01:06PM

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday December 30 2016, @01:06PM (#447390) Homepage Journal

      Using the word liberal to refer to a democrat is wrong to begin with. They aren't. Liberals value liberty, democrats most assuredly do not.

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      • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Friday December 30 2016, @01:35PM

        by cubancigar11 (330) on Friday December 30 2016, @01:35PM (#447398) Homepage Journal

        I purposefully didn't call it democrat because that is a localized American thing while liberalism is a global political machinery. There is indeed a difference between political liberals and actual people who value liberty. I suppose the right word to use is "Left" (for whatever mileage it gives).

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday December 30 2016, @01:57PM

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday December 30 2016, @01:57PM (#447411) Homepage Journal

          It's a highly inaccurate term currently though. There is nothing liberal about liberals. Progressives would be a better term. It just means they want change, without specifying what. The only true liberals in the U.S. lately are libertarians.

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          My rights don't end where your fear begins.
          • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Friday December 30 2016, @04:01PM

            by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Friday December 30 2016, @04:01PM (#447467) Homepage Journal

            I'm being redundant, but "liberal" has to do with generosity, not liberty ("a liberal portion"). The libertarians are indeed for liberty, but you can't say someone who doesn't want their taxes to be used for feeding the poor a "liberal". Not wanting to help the poor is past conservative and well into stingy.

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            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday December 31 2016, @11:39AM

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday December 31 2016, @11:39AM (#447817) Homepage Journal

              Lemme splain. No, is too much, lemme sum up.

              Libertarians are opposed to theft. Charity is a fine thing but charity is voluntary. Robbing citizens at gunpoint and giving what they have earned to someone else is not charity; it is organized crime wherein the criminals are the ones receiving the money and their lower ranked thugs are the ones collecting it.

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              My rights don't end where your fear begins.
              • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Saturday December 31 2016, @06:17PM

                by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Saturday December 31 2016, @06:17PM (#447901) Homepage Journal

                That is one thing I disagree with the LP about. Nobody's going to volunteer to pay for roads, schools, enactment and enforcement of laws. You're not being robbed at gunpoint, you're paying the price of the civilization you enjoy living in.

                It's not a robbery, it's a moral, ethical, and legal transaction. And you're probably not, but I'm a Christian, and Christ said "pay your taxes" (in a colorful way).

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                • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 01 2017, @12:45AM

                  by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Sunday January 01 2017, @12:45AM (#447994) Homepage Journal

                  Believe it or not, it IS possible to fund a government without holding death or imprisonment over people's heads.

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                  My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                  • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Sunday January 01 2017, @03:23AM

                    by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Sunday January 01 2017, @03:23AM (#448027) Homepage Journal

                    Pay what you owe, it's that simple.

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                    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday January 01 2017, @11:17AM

                      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Sunday January 01 2017, @11:17AM (#448092) Homepage Journal

                      I don't owe. Neither do you. That's the entire point. When someone comes up unasked and smears your windshield with grease and newsprint at a stoplight, you do not owe them for "cleaning" your windshield. Ditto the government's sad attempts at services.

                      The government is quite capable of funding itself without perpetrating extortion upon its citizens. That it chooses not to does not obligate those being stolen from to feel the need to assist in the theft.

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                      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                      • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Wednesday January 04 2017, @10:12PM

                        by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday January 04 2017, @10:12PM (#449559) Homepage Journal

                        Yes, you do. You cast a vote for someone to represent you, and if you don't like their laws, you vote against them. This isn't North Korea; if it were, I'd agree with you.

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                        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday January 04 2017, @11:26PM

                          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday January 04 2017, @11:26PM (#449583) Homepage Journal

                          Your fellow citizens voting to steal what is yours at threat of death or imprisonment is no more legitimate than stealing it themselves; it's simply organized crime instead of disorganized. That you refuse to see this tells me you're one of the thieves.

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                          My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Friday December 30 2016, @03:57PM

        by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Friday December 30 2016, @03:57PM (#447462) Homepage Journal

        I used to think "liberal" meant "liberty" long ago, too, but I realized that the other side of the coin is "conservative". A liberal is someone who is generous, a conservative is someone who is stingy.

        At least, that's what the dictionary says.

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        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @06:03PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @06:03PM (#447516)

          You're using the wrong dictionary.

          Those are specific terms in the field of political science.

          Liberal is opposed to authoritarian, not conservative. Conservative is opposed to radical.

          Progressive, for what it's worth, is opposed to reactionary.

          It's quite possible to be a conservative liberal.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @07:06PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @07:06PM (#447556)

      Maybe call out the political figure heads using ideological agendas to push through their own crony policies. Is that too big of a task, or do you require further emotional satisfaction by attacking the bogeyman? Maybe realize they exist on both sides of the isle?

      • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Friday December 30 2016, @07:20PM

        by cubancigar11 (330) on Friday December 30 2016, @07:20PM (#447568) Homepage Journal

        I am very sure they exist on both sides. But when both sides are not on my side, I would rather be with the one who is losing until my support becomes crucial.

        This is exactly what Marx said. And not just the bogeyman Marx of ****** and republicans, but this is literally exactly what he wrote.

    • (Score: 2) by fritsd on Friday December 30 2016, @09:10PM

      by fritsd (4586) on Friday December 30 2016, @09:10PM (#447603) Journal

      Have you heard of the "political compass" [politicalcompass.org]? It helps. Liberals can be economic left or economic right (most are economic right neo-liberalists).

      Left and Right are about economic structure, from communism to socialism to capitalism/neoliberalism

      Authoritarian and Liberal are about social structure, from authoritarian/conservative to libertarian/progressive.

      on the left menu on the website under "region specific" you can find what the (anonymous?) authors of politicalcompass.org think about the USA 2016 candidates [politicalcompass.org].

      Before you say "that compass is also bullshit": they know already, it's in the FAQ:

      There have to be other measures for a political compass

      Great. Tell us about them so that we can consider adding them. But surely our two axis arrangement is a vast improvement on the single one that you've put up with for more than 2 centuries.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday December 30 2016, @09:16PM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday December 30 2016, @09:16PM (#447607) Journal

        That's way too complicated for these auto-fellating morons. Hell, just the idea of there being a one-dimensional spectrum, rather than two points on either end, strains what passes for their brains.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @10:22PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 30 2016, @10:22PM (#447628)

      So what shall I do? Create further groups inside liberals?

      By all means! Knock yourself out! I prefer "doo-doo head". Works for kids! Or alternatively, you could just say, " I hate you Daddy, I hate you!!