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A group of Mexican farmer leaders and academics believe that U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's pledge to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA, will be a good opportunity to review areas of the treaty that are not favorable to the sector in Mexico.
Experts say that after 23 years of its implementation, NAFTA, signed by Mexico, the United States and Canada in the early 90s, has helped dismantle Mexico's agricultural production system through neoliberal policies that have left millions of poor farmers without state support and have increased the country's food dependency on aboard, La Jornada reported Tuesday.
Since his presidential campaign, Trump has vowed to force Canada and Mexico to negotiate the trade deal saying it has been detrimental to the manufacturing industry in the United States, sending shocking waves of uncertainty for the already weakened Mexican economy.
[...] In the years that have followed the NAFT signing, the Mexican government has sold itself as a pro-business and lower-cost alternative for U.S. companies and in the process became a manufacturing powerhouse of cars, computers, aerospace technology and televisions.
However, the modernization process also helped dismantle the national agricultural system, which has practically disappeared, according to analysts and producers.
Source: teleSUR
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 31 2016, @01:36AM
Proof? The flood of people leaving Mexico when they realized how badly they had been screwed. The millions of US citizens out of work today.
Figures don't lie, but liars figure. Pay a fool enough, and he can manipulate numbers to say anything you want them to say. Go to Mexico, and look at the quality of life. Between NAFTA and the drug cartels, Mexico positively sucks today. Don't take my word for it though. Go look for yourself. Or, maybe you'll take these people's word for it?
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/ [borderlandbeat.com]
WARNING TO SHELTERED SPECIAL SNOWFLAKES!!! If you scroll down that page far enough, you WILL find graphic images that will turn your stomach.
(hey, it's Christmas season - I had to click to page two to find a photo of a body, and this one is tidily wrapped up in garbage bags.)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 31 2016, @02:00AM
So anyone with actual numbers is a liar.
The only truth is whatever you take on faith.
Runaway you truly are a modern man, you were post-factual before it was trendy!
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 31 2016, @03:11AM
The Clinton White House cited numbers like 12 million. The Bush White House set the figure at 20 million, in it's first administration. The O'Bummer White House released a number like 11 million at some point in time. More reliable sources state quite simply that nobody knows - they are undocumented. The ridiculous numbers of 11, 12, or even 15 million are incredible. Add in the fact that many come here illegally, stay for however many years they choose, then go home - only to be replaced by more people crossing the border illegally. Add in those who come here illegally, return to Mexico, then come here illegally AGAIN. I'll wager that there have been 100,000,000 illegal border crossings since Bush was sworn in. Probaby another 25,000,000 while Clinton was president.
Your Homeland SEcurity asswipes refuse to admit that there are any criminals among the illegal aliens, and they refuse to release credible numbers, in addition to refusing to round up any criminals. How, exactly, do you expect to find reliable numbers?
My numbers are at least as good as this administration's numbers, because I go back to past administrations to find reference numbers. None of them are nearly high enough. Clinton kinda sorta thought that the police had identified 11 million illegals - but those are ONLY the ones they thought they could count. By their nature, illegals are difficult to count.
Cumulatively, over the course of the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations, not less than 50 million illegal aliens have entered the US. Possibly as many as 125 million.
You want better numbers? Well, I'd appreciate if you could find and share a CREDIBLE source.
Want some real news from the border? http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2013/01/risking-their-lives-from-desperation.html [borderlandbeat.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 31 2016, @03:23AM
WTF are you talking about?
I was talking about the number of skilled jobs due to exports.
You? I dunno, drunk maybe?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 31 2016, @04:27AM
Oh - so - you're one of those elitests, who don't care that Joe Smith's kid isn't fit for much more than digging ditches. If Smith wanted his kid to have a *good job* he would have sent the kid to college.
Except - you don't seem to have noticed that somewhat educated people in the tech industries are beginning to complain about the very same thing. Even college educated software and web "engineers" are being replaced by selected people brought in from India and other places.
As for "skills" - carpentry is a skill. It takes a couple years apprenticeship before you can even try to claim journeyman status. And, carpenters were among the first to be hit by the illegal alien influx. Concrete workers were right up there with the carpeneters.
What world are you living in, where illegal aliens only do unskilled labor?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 31 2016, @06:37AM
So drunk it is then?
Because NAFTA has got shit all to do with illegal aliens.
Its like the drinking has let loose your seething racism and its all blurred together in an alcoholic rage about the brown.
You could make an argument about NAFTA sending low skilled jobs going south of the border. But I already made that one up thread.
Carpentry? Concrete? None of those jobs were affected by NAFTA. If anything, NAFTA's benefits to the upper and middle classes contributed to the demand for new construction causing increased employment in construction.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 31 2016, @08:02AM
Science suggests that some brains are the densest material on earth.
Which part of "NAFTA and the drug wars destroyed Mexico's economy" do you fail to understand? Mexicans flood across the border, but WHY? They have always trickled across, but suddenly they are a torrent. WHY? The answers are NAFTA and the drug wars. When a rather stable economy all but collapses soon after some pie-in-the-sky trade agreement, you just might suspect some kind of correlation.
To be fair, we can't blame it all on NAFTA. The drug wars contribute to Mexico's economic problems. Maybe without the drug wars, NAFTA wouldn't be such a terrible thing for their economy. But, reality is what it is. As a result of NAFTA, millions of Mexicans are no longer able to support themselvs in Mexico, so they come north looking for something better.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/24/mexico-loosens-restrictions-on-foreigners-buying-property.html [foxnews.com]
Foreingners are colonizing Mexico. Read that carefully - Mexico is an economic colony of corporate masters, primarily US corporations.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 31 2016, @01:41PM
So NAFTA is bad for everybody except the 1%ers in all 3 countries.
Because NAFTA made it possible to increase profits while simultaneously reducing demand for labor.
Your underpants gnome logic is impeccable!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday December 31 2016, @03:15PM
Alright, smart guy - who should profit off of treaties and agreements? Does the world actually belong to the 1%? Is that the correct way of looking at things? Streamline the profiteering of the 1%, and cull most of the remaining 99% to live on the dole? Where does that kind of thinking lead? I really don't now where that road leads ultimately, but along the way, the idle masses are going to wreck the 1% mansions, yachts, private planes, ocean front properties, etc. What do you really think an idle population is going to do with it's time? Look at the inner cities today, and imagine that crap spreading all across the country.
I guess some people like gangs of thugs roaming their neighborhoods.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 31 2016, @03:34AM
The (white) people who hire them are committing a crime.
Jail ALL of the people breaking the law.
Problem solved.
N.B. Not holding my breath waiting for this to happen.
Reagan stopped enforcing the law and no chief executive since has had the balls to start again.
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