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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday January 03 2017, @10:03AM   Printer-friendly
from the one-more-for-a-ten-speed dept.

http://wardsauto.com/print/technology/new-9-speed-pushes-tech-limit-gm-says

Like the old 6-speed units, which GM refined over the years and expects to continue applying to its vehicles into the near future, the 9-speed was developed through a partnership with crosstown rival Ford.

Both automakers also derive 10-speed variants from the work. Ford brought that gearbox to market recently in the F-150 large pickup, while GM got first dibs on the 9-speed. GM's first application of the 10-speed will be in the '17 Chevy Camaro ZL1, a 640-hp supercharged version of the sports coupe due later this year in the U.S.

[...] In-house logics software inside a 32-bit transmission control module handles all shift events for smooth, precise ratio changes, GM says. It also monitors transmission performance and compensates for wear in parts such as the clutch plate to maintain consistent performance over time.

"This transmission shifts very smoothly, very precisely," Kline says.

The controller is mounted outside the gearbox to reduce packaging and manufacturing complexity, and it pulls vehicle-specific calibration from the cloud to be added to the core program as the car or truck exits the assembly line. It also enables manual shift control and grade logic, GM says.

The 9T50 features a wider 7.6:1 overall ratio, compared with 6.0:1 in its 6-speed predecessor, a deep 4.69 first gear for off-the-line performance and a tall 0.62 top gear for fuel-efficient, low-rpm highway cruising and optimal NVH.

Sixth gear is equivalent to eighth gear on the new transmission, too, so compared with the 6-speed the 9-speed offers two fuel-saving overdrive gears. Seventh gear is the direct-drive gear, while ninth gear is in use up to 52% of the time.

While the article doesn't say, my guess is that the design is also optimized for automatic/robotic assembly — even though the manufacturing plant is in Mexico.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by maxwell demon on Tuesday January 03 2017, @10:18AM

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Tuesday January 03 2017, @10:18AM (#448844) Journal

    It sounded interesting until I got to this:

    and it pulls vehicle-specific calibration from the cloud to be added to the core program as the car or truck exits the assembly line.

    When the gear is inserted, you should know exactly which car you are inserting it into, so there's no need to give it the ability to pull from the cloud; a traditional software write should be absolutely sufficient. Preferably through a wired interface. No need to make it vulnerable to remote hacking.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by BsAtHome on Tuesday January 03 2017, @11:02AM

    by BsAtHome (889) on Tuesday January 03 2017, @11:02AM (#448855)

    Agree.

    Your gearbox was unable to confirm its authenticity. You may be traveling with an illegal gearbox. Please turn your car off and on again. R)retry, A)bort, I)gnore. The BCA (Business Car Alliance) has been informed and will conduct an audit as soon as possible to ensure you are compliant with the gearbox EULA.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Kilo110 on Tuesday January 03 2017, @11:13AM

    by Kilo110 (2853) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 03 2017, @11:13AM (#448856)

    Pay no attention to that. It's just the marketing flunkies trying to stuff as many buzzwords in as they can.

    • (Score: 2, Touché) by nitehawk214 on Tuesday January 03 2017, @05:27PM

      by nitehawk214 (1304) on Tuesday January 03 2017, @05:27PM (#448983)

      Pay no attention to digital bullshit until it fucks you over.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by TK on Tuesday January 03 2017, @07:21PM

      by TK (2760) on Tuesday January 03 2017, @07:21PM (#449029)

      The less fancy version is: the assembler scans a barcode associated with a particular car/set of options, and this loads the presets into a controller on the transmission.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by aclarke on Tuesday January 03 2017, @12:01PM

    by aclarke (2049) on Tuesday January 03 2017, @12:01PM (#448862) Homepage

    Why is it that every time "the cloud" is mentioned, someone's got to post a boilerplate anti-cloud response? The "cloud is always bad" brigade is missing the point just as badly as the "cloud is always good" lobby.

    It's one sentence in a general article. It's not a technical article for software architects. I can think of at least one scenario where from a layperson's perspective, "the cloud" is used where it would make sense. Let's put a bunch of transmission software engineers in an office in Michigan. They're writing code and pushing firmware updates for these transmissions. The transmissions are being installed into, say, 12 different vehicle models across two companies (GM, Ford), in 10 plants in 5 countries. How are these 10 plants supposed to get their software updates? Private jet? What in the world is wrong with the plants pulling updated firmware from a repository in "the cloud"? I'm using quotes around "the cloud" because it might just be a server somewhere that's not actually "the cloud", but that point is lost on most readers.

    • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Tuesday January 03 2017, @01:05PM

      by LoRdTAW (3755) on Tuesday January 03 2017, @01:05PM (#448878) Journal

      "It's new and I hate it. Now get off my lawn!"

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 03 2017, @05:01PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 03 2017, @05:01PM (#448967)

        Centralized resources and centralized control of data are new things? You must be young, so yeah, get off my lawn!

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday January 03 2017, @01:44PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 03 2017, @01:44PM (#448888) Journal

      How are these 10 plants supposed to get their software updates? Private jet? What in the world is wrong with the plants pulling updated firmware from a repository in "the cloud"?

      Private jet is a viable option here, let us note. And the problem, of course, is that you aren't only allowing convenient update for the official maintainers of the code, but another opportunity for various ne'er-do-wells and malware to insert code into working cars.

    • (Score: 2) by stretch611 on Tuesday January 03 2017, @03:07PM

      by stretch611 (6199) on Tuesday January 03 2017, @03:07PM (#448921)

      Why is it that every time "the cloud" is mentioned, someone's got to post a boilerplate anti-cloud response? The "cloud is always bad" brigade is missing the point just as badly as the "cloud is always good" lobby.

      When it comes to retail goods, the cloud is almost always a bad thing for consumer rights.

      What is stopping it from updating to a bugged release? With the cloud who knows where it does it. At least with a (non-cloud upgraded) car, If I need a firmware update and go to the dealer (or mechanic)[ if the update bugs out, I am somewhere that can fix the car (and hopefully stored a backup first.) What's to stop an update from bricking your car in your garage. (I hope they have the sense not to have it update while in motion.)

      Having something that can automatically updates from the cloud can be a security nightmare. Even tech companies can get it wrong... regularly. Do they used encrypted and signed firmware updates? What safeguards consumers against DNS spoofing? What happens when the tech people there forget to renew the domain? Car companies are not known for their robust security... quite the opposite. What makes you think they can deal with this securely when people in the industry have problems?

      And the biggest issue it was happens when the company decides to no longer support that car/model or transmission unit? They shut the server down. What happens when you can no longer update? Will it still work at all? If you need to replace the transmission in the future, will the firmware be available? Car companies are not in the practice of open-sourcing their proprietary code... even after it is no longer used. Your fancy car becomes a useless junker, regardless of the shape it is in.

      What happens to the gearhead who wants to run an after market firmware (if one is available.) Does the firmware auto update to the factory code? or does it brick?

      So yes... adding "cloud" to retail items is bad almost every time. It is almost always an erosion of consumer rights and ownership. It is not difficult to find news stories of apple/google/amazon remotely bricking devices, removing programs, ebooks, or music from devices... even cases where they removed public domain works. Recently they even bricked Samsung Galaxy Note 7s... while it was a safety issue... what is there to prevent them from just forcing you to upgrade? Sound impossible? I guarantee it is many CEO's wet dream... car company or not.

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      • (Score: 2) by EvilSS on Tuesday January 03 2017, @04:09PM

        by EvilSS (1456) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 03 2017, @04:09PM (#448950)
        Nice rant. Totally does not apply to the transmission in this article, but really: nice rant.
    • (Score: 2) by gringer on Wednesday January 04 2017, @05:28AM

      by gringer (962) on Wednesday January 04 2017, @05:28AM (#449235)

      Why is it that every time "the cloud" is mentioned, someone's got to post a boilerplate anti-cloud response? The "cloud is always bad" brigade is missing the point just as badly as the "cloud is always good" lobby.

      Because the concept of "the cloud" is so vague, so nebulous, that people are always going to have different views about it.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by LoRdTAW on Tuesday January 03 2017, @12:51PM

    by LoRdTAW (3755) on Tuesday January 03 2017, @12:51PM (#448875) Journal

    You obviously didn't read this bit:

    added to the core program as the car or truck exits the assembly line.

    This is done in factory and is not an OTA push.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 03 2017, @04:05PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 03 2017, @04:05PM (#448948)

      If it requires a manual installation step, how much more difficult it would be to perform the installation from, say, a pendrive instead of having to rely on a cloud service? If it is automatic and done wirelessly, how hard is it to convince the car it needs an update or that it never left the assembly line?
      In essence, if manual then involving the cloud is unnecessary at best, and if it is automatic, it is a vector for attack.

      • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Tuesday January 03 2017, @05:28PM

        by LoRdTAW (3755) on Tuesday January 03 2017, @05:28PM (#448985) Journal

        I'm chalking it up to buzzword soup. Using cloud makes it sound as if they are hip to the cutting edge tech.

  • (Score: 2) by arslan on Wednesday January 04 2017, @12:31AM

    by arslan (3462) on Wednesday January 04 2017, @12:31AM (#449162)

    Damnit! There is no cloud where I'm driving, only kangaroos... insensitive American car manufacturers..