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posted by on Wednesday January 04 2017, @10:48AM   Printer-friendly
from the now-we-wait-and-watch dept.

Basic Income is a subject that regularly surfaces in Soylent discussions, so here's a story about Finland's impending experiment with it:

Finland has become the first country in Europe to pay its unemployed citizens a basic monthly income, amounting to 560 euros ($587 US), in a unique social experiment which is hoped to cut government red tape, reduce poverty and boost employment.

Olli Kangas from the Finnish government agency KELA, which is responsible for the country's social benefits, said Monday that the two-year trial with the 2,000 randomly picked citizens who receive unemployment benefits kicked off Jan. 1.

Those chosen will receive 560 euros every month, with no reporting requirements on how they spend it. The amount will be deducted from any benefits they already receive.

The average private sector income in Finland is 3,500 euros per month, according to official data.

Also at The Guardian and swissinfo.ch.


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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 05 2017, @12:17AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 05 2017, @12:17AM (#449592) Journal

    I said "darkies" and I've said worse. Often when referring to you, Aristarchus!

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by aristarchus on Thursday January 05 2017, @05:12AM

    by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday January 05 2017, @05:12AM (#449662) Journal

    Yes, we are all well aware. But this is why you are banned from everywhere on the internets except here. You share this honor [sic] with Ethanol_fueled and MikeeUSA, an anti-semite and a pedophile. Does this not embarrass you? It is not that there is a difference of opinion here, you are just socially unacceptable, even if you try to cloak it in "politically uncorrect". No, you are just an unthinking prejudiced asshole hillbilly from the South, from the state that gave us the Clintons, and you think you can contribute anything meaningful to the discussion here on SoylentNews? No, you do not, and now it is time for you to grow a pair and just log off and shut your mouth. Before you embarrass yourself more, and smear the reputation of SoylentNews further. I am serious.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 05 2017, @10:58PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 05 2017, @10:58PM (#449983) Journal

      We've gone over this idea before. I'm not banned from the internets. In fact, you commented once about my karma rating. Despite all your efforts, my karma stays right up there near 50. You throw a hissy fit, use your sock puppets to mod me down, and reasonable people repair the damage you do.

      Have you read this submission yet? https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=17777¬e=&title=not+alt-right%2C+but+POPULISM [soylentnews.org]

      Your greatest problem is that you are an idealogue. You actually believe in all that stupid shit the politicians toss at you to keep you distracted from real issues. You actually believe that gay marriage was important, you actually believe that SJW's know what they are talking about, you believe in your left/liberal/progressive/democrat heros.

      Hell man, only the very worst of the worst on the Republican/right side believe in the party's heros, like you believe in Hillary. I guess that just makes you a chump.

      Anyway, my views are far more "mainstream" than you can possibly imagine. (not that I claim to be "mainstream", only that you can't imagine what "mainstream" really means) You're out of touch with reality, dude.

      Trump won. He beat the "best" that your party had to offer, he beat the "best" that the other party had to offer - because WE ARE ALL SICK OF YOUR IDEOLOGIES!!

      It's time for you to get in touch with reality, man. Or, not. YOu can, if you insist, rant and rave like a madman for the next 4 years, or 8 years, or 80 years.

      Embarrassed. Yes, many of us are embarrssed when you post your meaningless nonsense here. But, we must defend YOUR freedom of speech, or we will surely lose our own freedom of speech. But, I learned that concept as a very young child. Obviously, you have never learned it. Being the c̶h̶a̶n̶c̶r̶e̶ ̶ anchor baby of a pair of foreigners, you weren't born to a real American war hero, or his bride who all but worshipped the man for fighting in the Pacific.

      Trump won. Get used to the idea. Or, you can be like the Republicans, whose own party revolted on them, and threw them under the bus. Maybe Bernie can win the next nomination, without your favored criminals standing in is way?

      • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday January 06 2017, @12:13AM

        by aristarchus (2645) on Friday January 06 2017, @12:13AM (#450007) Journal

        Tell us more, Runaway! You are so average! Share your homespun wisdom with the rest of us. Please?

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 06 2017, @01:53AM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 06 2017, @01:53AM (#450038) Journal

          You don't listen. I'm only willing to waste so much time on you.

          • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday January 06 2017, @03:36AM

            by aristarchus (2645) on Friday January 06 2017, @03:36AM (#450078) Journal

            Oh, come on, Runaway! Tell about your encounter with the jigaboos! Expound on the constitutional grounds for striping citizenship from anchor babies! Affirm once again that you are not racist! We all love to hear your opinions on topics like these. Please go on, Runaway!

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 06 2017, @02:56PM

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 06 2017, @02:56PM (#450222) Journal

              I'm terribly racist, and known for my racism, right here in real life, Aristarchus. Monday, I returned to work after 7 weeks off for surgery. Want to know what happened when I walked in the door? An attractive 30-something black lady squealed, and hollered my name before I walked the short distance from the door, to the break room. As I walked into the break room, tall muscular black dude hammered my shoulder, and tells me "bout time you brought your lazy ass back to work!" This particular black dude is also a former squid - I think he missed swapping sea stories. Dropped my gear in the break room, and walked to the ops office. Little Mexican gal, 40 something, dropped what she was doing, and took the three paces to the door to give me a hug. My boss seemed to have an urge to hug me, but she restrained herself - which is just as well, 'cause she's not nearly so hot as the 40-something. After flapping my gums for a bit in the office, I walked out on the floor, to be loudly greeted by two more black ladies. All the guys, black, white, and Mexican, have a word of welcome for me, although few are as loud and boisterous as the women. Then, there's this nubile little thing who used to work third shift with us, but has moved to day shift. She's 23, and hot, hot, hot. When she saw me in the morning, she came running, and I though she was going to jump on me and hug me to death. I suppose that she remembered just in time that I am something of a lecher - she stopped, and beamed the most beautiful 23-year old nubilbe baby-doll smile at me, and chattered away for five minutes. Beautiful little anchor baby, that girl is.

              I am hardly any less outspoken at work than I am here on the forum. I speak my mind in real life, just as I do here. Some people agree with some of my opinions, other people agree with other opinions, and some of my opinions don't have any real followers at all. But, these coworkers still love me.

              Think about that for a bit. People who have worked with me for a decade, on a daily basis, people who have seen me at my best and my worst, don't seem to think that I'm a racist.

              Do ya think that just maybe, the racism problem here is all in your head? Possibly, it's you who is the racist?

              BTW - that lovely little anchor baby KNOWS that she's an anchor baby. Both her, and her big brother. Their opinions on the matter differ from mine, but we respect each other enough that we can actually discuss things like anchor babies.

              Unlike here, where people of certain persuasions deem me to be subhuman because I know their politics are nothing but shit.

              Damn, I wish I were about 40 years younger. I'd chase that little girl all around the plant . . . .

              • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday January 06 2017, @10:22PM

                by aristarchus (2645) on Friday January 06 2017, @10:22PM (#450482) Journal

                I'd chase that little girl all around the plant . . . .

                So, racist who wants to deport your fellow workers, but still a nice guy. This is the cognitive dissonance that we do not understand. You either are faking the politeness, or you are not serious about your political views. But it seems you are more on the side of pedophilia than anti-semitism? Umm, OK. . . . .

                • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 06 2017, @10:30PM

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 06 2017, @10:30PM (#450484) Journal

                  As sweet and beautiful as this little girl is, her parents were law breakers. They USED their children to get a toe in the door. I'll be OK if her parents are deported, and she and her brother are left here. Or, they can choose to leave with their parents. It's not that big a deal. Mexico hasn't been hit with a meteor, and become uninhabitable, since her parents left there.

                  Remember - illegal isn't a race. Illegal is illegal though.

                  If these Mexicans I work with can accept my point of view, WTF can't you? Were YOUR parents illegals? So, you take it personally?

                  Once again, the amendment was aimed at former slaves, and the offspring of former slaves. It was never intended to open the gates for an invading force of 50 million.

                  • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday January 06 2017, @11:04PM

                    by aristarchus (2645) on Friday January 06 2017, @11:04PM (#450497) Journal

                    You attack any American citizen, you attack them all! Doesn't matter whether you personally think they are legal, or not. You child lecher, you! What makes you even think I am one, though? Nationalism is an artificial and repugnant notion, as both you and the Donald are making abundantly clear. It is a betrayal of the principles of the American and French revolutions, which asserted the Rights of Man (Thomas Paine?), and Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity. So why do you hate America?

                    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday January 07 2017, @12:18AM

                      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 07 2017, @12:18AM (#450512) Journal

                      Utter horse shit. Pure, utter horse shit.

                      Citizenship is conferred via parentage, not by an accident of location at birth.

                      "Nationalism is an artificial and repugnant notion"

                      THIS is why you are no American. You've rejected the very concept of Americanism. You've rejected the concept of German, French, British, or Chinese citizenship, along with American citizenship. In your view of the world, anyone can come from anywhwere, and demand an equal voice in government. It is you and your kind who betray America.

                      Oh - the French revolution? A bit of mass hysteria, really. http://articles.latimes.com/1989-11-24/news/vw-242_1_salem-witch-trials [latimes.com]

                      • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday January 07 2017, @12:31AM

                        by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday January 07 2017, @12:31AM (#450516) Journal

                        I now have reliable intelligence that shows "Runaway1956" to be a 16-year-old female working in a "fake-news" operation in Macedonia. She has evaded detection for so long because she is almost a perfect facsimile of an older middle-aged redneck hillbilly male from the Southern United States of America. Reports suggest that the "fake-news" operation was in fact set up several years ago by Russian operatives paving the way for Donald Trump to be elected President of the US. Not only a traitor, but not even a real person. Cool story, bro!