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on Thursday January 05 2017, @02:47AM
from the where-did-I-put-that-Dansette-record-player? dept.
from the where-did-I-put-that-Dansette-record-player? dept.
Vinyl sales, which reached a 25-year high, and a continued increase in streaming offset decline in CD sales as music consumption rose last year, according to official music industry figures.
Vinyl sales rose by 53 per cent to top 3.2 million units – the most LPs sold since 1991. The biggest-selling vinyl artist was David Bowie, whose untimely death spurred interest in his back catalogue. Amy Winehouse's Back To Black also did well for similar reasons.
Just over 200,000 LPs were purchased in 2007. The 16-fold increase since underlines the strength of the vinyl revival.
Sales of CDs declined 11.7 per cent or more than a tenth in 2016.
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(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Thursday January 05 2017, @02:33PM
Obviously you've never spent any time with DJs, I happened to live for several years literally next door to a radio station so I got to know the guys and the reason for the compression? RADIO. It makes car speakers "pump" and catches the attention of people who most likely would only hear a song a couple times if that so that is why they crank it, teens like the speakers pumping no matter how shitty it sounds to those of us who actually like music.
And no you cannot pump a vinyl like you can a CD, because the needle would jump the groove. They actually tried that in the mid 80s with some of the metal bands and ended up having to quit because records would jump track, especially if the needle has any wear. Anyone who has worked in analog can tell you that you just can't pump it like you can digital, it will give you some seriously nasty distortion if its tape and give you groove issues with vinyl, it just won't take being pushed right to the edge like digital. I have gotten to record on 2 inch 24 track tape and I can tell you that you really have to watch the signal, if you were to get anywhere close to the levels you get on a digital setup it would just murder the highs and make the sound fuzzy as hell, it just can't take that hot a signal.
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(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday January 05 2017, @04:12PM
> ... it will give you some seriously nasty distortion if its tape ...
You clearly don't have a freaking clue what you're talking about. Compression's *nothing* to do with maximum levels (that's what the *amplifier* is for), it's about *reducing* dynamic range. Hence the name "compression", it's exactly the same "com" as in the "companding" that is behind Dolby NR, for pitty's sake, the term's been in use since the 60s, there's no reason you shouldn't be aware of it.
I re-iterate, for the slow of thinking - you can master vinyl with exactly the same amount of compression as you can a CD. All without increasing the maximum signal aplitude. (Yes, I had to repeat that bit too, because I had to be sure it would sink in.)
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(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 05 2017, @05:40PM
You clearly don't have a freaking clue what you're talking about.
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(Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Friday January 06 2017, @08:10AM
Its about maximizing signal, or can you not read a simple volume display? [wikipedia.org] See that one at the top, the one that does NOT get close to 0db? THAT is the vinyl master, they simply used it to press the CDs as they did with all the early first releases....now look at the bottom, go on, I'll wait....see how it is OVER the 0db threshold? Now THAT is what happens when you first compress a signal then boost the fuck out of it.
I spend all the free time I can get hanging at a 48 track ADAT studio, have my own 12 track setup at home, and have been recording music since the days of 1 inch reel to reels, sorry but you know exactly jack and shit and your post just shows how little you understand the subject, please do not waste anymore of my time.
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(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday January 06 2017, @11:13AM
Strike 1 - No, it's about maximising perceived loudness.
> or can you not read a simple volume display? See that one at the top, the one that does NOT get close to 0db? THAT is the vinyl master, they simply used it to press the CDs as they did with all the early first releases....now look at the bottom, go on, I'll wait....see how it is OVER the 0db threshold?
Nothing can be over the 0dB threshold. 0dB is by defintion the maximum permitted in the medium, which is the range of the integers its encoded with.
> Now THAT is what happens when you first compress a signal then boost the fuck out of it.
Ooooh, nice switcheroonie there, maybe you're more usually drooling with other idiots who won't notice that you've introduced another element into your argument, the element that *I* said was the actual important thing in the first place. Your *boost* is my *amplify*. We were discussing the compression, if you remember. Oh you don't remember, as you were too busy trying to wipe your drool off the lego 12-track your carers let you play with.
There are some fundamentals you simply seem to not understand.
a) dB are a relative measurement. Set 0dB as "maximum for the medium", and every medium tops out at 0dB. And you can to that, because:
b) The audio signal on a vinyl is *zero*. OK, it's the imperceptible pertutbation of a little rubber grommit holding the stylus arm in place. The electrical signal on vinyl is also zero apart from the dragging around of static charge. The electrical signal from a stylus is also almost imperceptible. The signal you are talking about is several steps of electronics away from the grove on the record. One of which specifically exists to change the gain. (It's, believe it or not, an "amplifier"; now do you see why I keep mentioning aplification?)
Therefore If you want vinyl to have the same line output as a CD, *set the phono pre-amp to map the maximum input to the line level output, 0dB*.
You may now go and drool on the lego 48-track that four of your friends made by clipping their 12-tracks together. Maybe you can teach them something about audio and electronics now.
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