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New York State: Salary Histories No Longer Required From Gov't Job Seekers

posted by Fnord666 on Thursday January 12 2017, @06:37AM   
from the it's-a-start dept.

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The The Center for American Progress reports

When applicants apply for a job with the New York State government, they will no longer have to worry about handing over a salary history.

As part of a slate of proposals in his State of the State address on [January 9], Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) announced he is issuing an executive order [PDF] that bans state entities from asking applicants for their salary histories or from evaluating candidates based on what they were paid in the past. Prospective employees can only be asked to provide the information after getting a job offer with compensation.

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• Re:spreadsheet will fix this Re:spreadsheet will fix this (Score: 2) by SecurityGuy on Thursday January 12 2017, @08:08PM

  by SecurityGuy (1453) on Thursday January 12 2017, @08:08PM (#453041)

  It's a bit like going into some big appliance store and the salesman starts by saying, "What's your price range?"

  Actually, when looking for appliances, cars, houses, etc, I do want to filter that way. Show me all the washers that cost less than $XXX, because I don't care what it does, I'm just not paying more than that. Similarly, with jobs I'd love to filter out every position or company that wouldn't pay me at least $X. If I won't accept less and they won't pay more, then there's no point spending either of our time deciding we want to work together.

  A neutral third party would by handy so that the company could tell someone (but not me, if they aren't willing) what their range is, and I could tell that same someone what range I'll accept, and all they tell us is that yes, there's an overlap, so we should talk, or not, and we both more on. Obviously, there's potential for abuse there that would have to be dealt with. You don't want a bunch of fake accounts binary-searching what the range is.

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• Re:spreadsheet will fix this (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 13 2017, @05:06AM

  by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 13 2017, @05:06AM (#453189)

  Actually, when looking for appliances, cars, houses, etc, I do want to filter that way. Show me all the washers that cost less than $XXX, because I don't care what it does, I'm just not paying more than that. Similarly, with jobs I'd love to filter out every position or company that wouldn't pay me at least $X. If I won't accept less and they won't pay more, then there's no point spending either of our time deciding we want to work together.

  Well, in principle, I could agree with this. In practice, though, the negotiations are typically rather one-sided. If the prospective employer were to state up front what range they were willing to pay for the job, then I could agree with this. Barring that, no way. Then it becomes a losing game for the prospective employee: if you can guess how much they are willing to pay you, you have a chance to get the job. In that scenario if they really want the job then the prospective employee will be safer to bet low rather than high. In that light, this looks like yet one more way for employers to depress employee wages.

  A neutral third party would by handy so that the company could tell someone (but not me, if they aren't willing) what their range is, and I could tell that same someone what range I'll accept, and all they tell us is that yes, there's an overlap, so we should talk, or not, and we both more on. Obviously, there's potential for abuse there that would have to be dealt with. You don't want a bunch of fake accounts binary-searching what the range is.

  Yes, there is tremendous opportunity for abuse there. Do you honestly not see how this could be abused by employers? Really?

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