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posted by n1 on Friday January 13 2017, @09:02PM   Printer-friendly
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Submitted via IRC for Runaway1956

The Pentagon could be poised for a rapid about-face under the Trump administration, with the Obama administration's push for social reform surrendering to what could be an old-school emphasis on combat readiness and the spirit of the United States military, experts told FoxNews.com.

Under President Obama, the military sought to integrate transgender persons into the ranks, allow women into special operations forces and purge the nomenclature of gender-specific words, adopting what some critics say was a "politically correct" liberal agenda. That's a contrast to the traditional U.S. military approach.

In addition, some Navy ships have been named for civil rights activists. And while the Obama administration has taken an inclusive approach on some issues, it has also worked to minimize expressions of Christianity in the ranks. For example, several officers have been disciplined for displaying Bibles or gospel verses in their quarters.

Veterans and military experts told FoxNews.com that, while some of Obama's civil rights advancements may be locked in, neither Trump nor his choice for secretary of defense, Gen. James "Mad Dog" Mattis, are likely to make social experimentation a priority.

Source: Fox News


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  • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Friday January 13 2017, @10:24PM

    by bob_super (1357) on Friday January 13 2017, @10:24PM (#453518)

    > Obama is not the military's master, congress is

    Factually incorrect, courtesy of the constitution you're sworn to defend.
    The Commander In Chief is the boss of the US military, regardless of whether you're volunteer, conscript, drafted, paid, unpaid...

    If you question the chain of command, you are a worse soldier than the weakest or dumbest gay, female or transgender soldier, and a shame to the people who preceded you.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 13 2017, @10:33PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 13 2017, @10:33PM (#453530)

    Smackitty smack smack! Makes me wonder if Runaway isn't just some shill account pretending to be a strongman... stupid anonymous internet making me question the legitimacy of every single goddamn thing!!

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday January 13 2017, @10:39PM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday January 13 2017, @10:39PM (#453538) Journal

      Nope, pretty sure this is 100% genuine. A lot of ex-military his age talk like this.

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      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 13 2017, @11:00PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 13 2017, @11:00PM (#453550)

        The root comment reads like it was written by a jilted veteran who didn't get exactly what he expected he'd get when he signed on the dotted line and is now bitter.

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 13 2017, @10:51PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 13 2017, @10:51PM (#453547) Journal

    Who, exactly, commissions officers, warrant officers, senior NCO's, ships, and units? Commissions come from congress. Ultimately, all pay comes from congress. Congress authorizes wars, congress signs peace treaties. President Washington didn't create the Marine Corps, congress did. No president disbanded the Navy, congress did. And, no president re-created the Navy later, congress did that. Congress is the military's master - the Commander in Chief is but the highest officer within that military.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 14 2017, @12:55AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 14 2017, @12:55AM (#453645)

    If you question the chain of command, you are a worse soldier than the weakest or dumbest gay, female or transgender soldier, and a shame to the people who preceded you.

    Absolutely not true. Not true at all. You are allowed to question orders from a superior officer. But you must follow the chain of command when stating your dissent. In my experience, military types really hate it when you don't follow and respect the chain of command.

    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Saturday January 14 2017, @01:40AM

      by bob_super (1357) on Saturday January 14 2017, @01:40AM (#453662)

      Let me rephrase my point to clarify for you:
        - You are required to question orders which you believe to be unlawful (going to the hierarchy for this).
        - You are allowed to question the fitness of your commanders to be above you in the hierarchy , if you can present facts supporting their incompetence or improper behavior.
      BUT
        - Outside of those two cases, you are not to question the chain of command itself. The president is the boss, period. The admiral or general is the sub-boss, period. And so on until it gets down to you. You don't get argue why or how those people are where they are, you either follow lawful orders, or leave the service.