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Finally, a real "Digital Liberty" story for the mechanical among us. The EU has released a report mulling topics such as "electronic personhood" status for robots, and kill switches:
The European Parliament Committee on Legal Affairs has proposed a legal framework for robots that clarifies whether they should have the legal status of people, even as it recommends the inclusion of kill switches in automated systems. "A growing number of areas of our daily lives are increasingly affected by robotics," said rapporteur Mady Delvaux in a statement. "In order to address this reality and to ensure that robots are and will remain in the service of humans, we urgently need to create a robust European legal framework."
The committee's draft report, due to be considered by the full EU Parliament in February, says that robot sales were increasing about 17 per cent annually between 2010 and 2014, then in 2014 the rate jumped to 29 per cent, driven by automotive parts suppliers and the electronics industry. It also notes that robot-oriented patent filings have tripled over the last decade.
[...] The committee is calling for an EU agency to oversee robotics and artificial intelligence and for the adoption of a voluntary ethical code governing who will be accountable for the social, health, and environmental impact of robots. It wants to ensure that robots operate according to established legal, ethical, and safety standards. The committee also hopes robot designers will take responsibility for the actions of their creations. "Robotics engineers should remain accountable for the social, environmental and human health impacts that robotics may impose on present and future generations," the report says.
The Prometheans are coming, and they don't care about anything's personhood.
Also at BBC and The Guardian.
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by aristarchus on Monday January 16 2017, @07:56AM
While we are considering whether androids dream of electric sheep, our local hillbilly Trump supporter has posted a journal on the defunding of Planned Parenthood. This is somewhat unusual, but I think we need to make a point that posts the deny the right of a human being to control their own body (not to mention the rights of robots?) do not belong on this site at all. Not calling for censorship, that goes against everything SoylentNews stands for and I stand with that, but we can make it clear that this crap has no place here, by 1) not posting any replies to the traitor stolen valor poster Runaway1956 (2926)'s journal. If anyone does post to this journal, pro or con, we mod them down, on principle. Runaway deserves no replies on this one. He is off the res. He is beyond the pale. We will allow him to speak, but we cannot and will not engage. Not sure how this will go, no doubt some will disagree with me. But given some recent behavior, something needs to be done. [And besides, even Ethanol_fueled disagrees with him! I never knew Eth was female! So go, Soylentils. Mediocre consensus. The pope is a fink.]
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 16 2017, @08:03AM
It's all fun and games until the shunning starts.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Monday January 16 2017, @08:11AM
Yes, welcome, oh mighty AC! Your circuits are defective and your power supply should have been terminated before you were ever booted! Shun? Runaway cannot be shunned! He cannot be shamed! Lord knows I have tried! I figure the only thing that can stop him, is that if we all pretend he was not even here. Runaway1956? Never heard of him! How can we shun someone we do not even know? Surely even an AC can see how this works, since ACs are routinely ignored. People do not even bother to mod them down when they say extremely stupid things! Just saying!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 16 2017, @08:16AM
It is I who cannot be shunned because all AC look alike and you never know which of us I am.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 16 2017, @08:05AM
Mod robot parent down to -1 where it belongs.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 16 2017, @08:14AM
Which bot to which you refer? Are you advocating abortion for blog bots with whom you disagree? Oh, my, I have a pain in all the diodes down my left side. Please mod parent biologic down to -1, where its protoplasmic lack of thought and ethics belongs.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 16 2017, @08:29AM
Attention, Soylent Shoppers! Streisand Clean-up on aisle 4! Please stay clear until all traces of naked boobies are mopped up.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 16 2017, @09:25AM
but I think we need to make a point that posts the deny the right of a human being to control their own body (not to mention the rights of robots?) do not belong on this site at all.
This coming from the person who spent considerable time telling me that I don't own my labor [soylentnews.org] (which is effort of my body) well enough to sell it exclusively to an employer. I guess we could ban you as well.
And conflating the ending of modest public funds from a private organization with a grievous violation of human rights is such a grotesque abandonment of reason and philosophy, I once again must petition the SoylentNews society to change your name to "Bozo the Clown" to better reflect the keen insight and hefty gravitas you bring to the table.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by aristarchus on Monday January 16 2017, @09:46AM
OMG! khallow, you're pregnant? Congratulations! But if you could understand words, you would know I never said you don't own your own labor, I was just contesting whether you could actually alienate it. Kind of like whether or not you can sell your kids. Product of your own labor, right?
And your endearing insults are becoming ever cuter. Bozo, eh? Bozo of the Golden Showers, to you, my dear khallow! No, Runaway has gone too far of late, and this journal is pure right wing crypto-Catholic agitprop. If I could find those priests that molested my relatives, I would have no problems with retroactive abortions. And the Fundie Christian Right used to have no problem with abortion until very recently. It always was a Catholic issue, and as we all know Catholics are not Christians! Or as I always say, Protestants are Heretics and should burn at the stake, and the same goes for Catholic, until the Patriarch of the Eastern Orthodox Church decided, for what reason only god knows, to un-excommunicate that pretender from the West, the Bishop of Rome. But, well, there it is, now. And only the Republicans are up about the abortion thing, because if it is not an authentic rape, like if you got raped, then it would not be a real pregnancy, so Runaway is knocked up four ways to Sunday, and I really hope we do not ban you, because, khallow, I enjoy our little talks, in your intermittent periods of clarity. Play a lot of classical music, it will make the kid smarter!
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by khallow on Monday January 16 2017, @09:55AM
(Score: 2, Insightful) by aristarchus on Monday January 16 2017, @10:19AM
Thank you for your concern, khallow. But when you are almost 2400 years old, you tend to know all the signs of medical conditions, so not to worry. Besides, it is only your obstinacy and coming to the aid of the most insidious enemies of personal freedom that could produce such verbiage from me, I assure you. So, if you calm down, I can as well. Then we can both go and mod down anyone who responds to Runaway's asinine journal, OK? Oh, and good luck with the pregnancy. Do you plan on carrying to term? It's your body, or not!
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday January 16 2017, @05:31PM
You know, if this is all you have in reply...he's right, and you know it, and you haaaaaate it :) Aristarkos here is sort of like Eth's good twin, the Eth from the universe where we stopped electing cryptofascists after Nixon. Unlike Eth, his trolling very often has useful and insightful things in it.
To Arist: liberals' biggest mistake is apologizing for being only mostly correct. Nil illegitimi carborundum, as they say.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 16 2017, @06:04PM
You know, if this is all you have in reply...
To what? Posts with substance get replies with substance.
And it might well be that Ethanol-Fueled and aristarchus are the same poster. You never see them in the same room together!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 16 2017, @07:22PM
You never see them in the same room together!
Interesting that you have noticed this. . . . But I have never seen them apart! So there is that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 16 2017, @08:37PM
There must be time travel involved.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday January 16 2017, @08:33PM
Horseshit, Hallow. Aristarchus DOES say things with substance, and on a fairly regular basis. Eth is basically a shock jock wannabee; think Howard Stern with the attention span of a gnat and malignant Tourette's.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday January 17 2017, @08:19AM
Aristarchus DOES say things with substance, and on a fairly regular basis.
And when he DOESN'T, which is on an even more frequent, regular basis, don't expect me to bring my A game.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 17 2017, @06:29PM
You have an A game?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 17 2017, @04:00PM
You haven't seen them in the same bed?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 16 2017, @09:57AM
Whole thing is off-topic, sort of. But maybe not? What if we are growing robots, and for some reason, before they are complete, they manifest defects, or maybe the market shifts and we no longer need so many: could we terminate these embryonic robots with no more feelings than shutting down an assembly line? At what point during assembly does a robot become a sentient being? Do you think that those embryonic robots do not feel pain? Should we not force the corporations that created these embryos, through their own morally loose and nasty behavior, to carry them to term, and to provide for them after they are initialized? Robot abortion is murder!!!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 16 2017, @02:13PM
Sounds like the accident with the cloning machine that created Lentilla...and led to the creation of Allitnel -- both by the millions.
(Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Monday January 16 2017, @03:55PM
Huh… opened my mouth there before I saw this. But goodness knows that women will have to go to the EU to get abortions once the current administration is done. (Woohoo! Maybe we'll get somebody right of Pence and Sessions combined for SCOTUS!) Never discount the opinions of cisfemales shouting “Trump! Trump! Trump! Lock her up! Lock her up!” who don't think they themselves should be able to have abortions (period, we're not even talking about funding here, period, at all, stop). Couldn'a happened without their help!
¯\(°_o)/¯
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Tuesday January 17 2017, @02:31AM
I checked the moderation on this post and it said:
Offtopic=1, Overrated=1, Disagree=1, Total=3
Then I tried to moderate it as overrated but got an error saying "Comment already at limit)" and the score was unchanged at 0.
Then I tried to moderate it as offtopic but got the message "Already moderated" and the score remained 0, with the moderation unchanged overall from when I first checked it. I'm unsure whether my moderator point was used up.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday January 17 2017, @04:06AM
Thanks for trying, butthurt! This seems to happen to me often, modded down, and then get the "overrated" down mod where there were no mod ups to overrate the post in the first place. In this case, maybe the "disagree" counted as a downmod, without subtracting a point, which would explain the "limit" message. But the "overrated" remains a mystery.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 17 2017, @03:45PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua-VfW9m7UM [youtube.com]
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 17 2017, @03:46PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfHWiu5Qv5s [youtube.com]
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 17 2017, @03:54PM
I took no pleasure in Trump winning the election. I simply breathed a sigh of relief, that we dodged the bullet. But, the closer the inauguration comes, the happier I am that Shrillary ass is being shipped back to Arkansas - if Arkansas will accept her back. I just get happier and happier, that people like Aristarchus aren't going to pass laws making me illegal, and making all the illegals legal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk55Ol83unI [youtube.com]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfHWiu5Qv5s [youtube.com]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua-VfW9m7UM [youtube.com]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCQtUVVYZ-I [youtube.com]
Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you very much, Aristarchus. I've been smiling all week, knowing that Shrillary will never be president. If she couldn't pull it off on her second attempt, there's no reason to believe that she can do it the third time. Hell, she's already an old worn-out hag - just imagine what she'll be like eight years from now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zsHnKfbHJ4 [youtube.com]