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posted by Fnord666 on Monday January 16 2017, @01:08PM   Printer-friendly
from the now-they're-all-watching-you dept.

If you thought government surveillance was bad already, it just got worse. A lot worse.

[T]he Obama administration on Thursday announced new rules that will let the NSA share vast amounts of private data gathered without warrant, court orders or congressional authorization with 16 other agencies, including the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Agency, and the Department of Homeland Security.

The new rules allow employees doing intelligence work for those agencies to sift through raw data collected under a broad, Reagan-era executive order that gives the NSA virtually unlimited authority to intercept communications abroad. Previously, NSA analysts would filter out information they deemed irrelevant and mask the names of innocent Americans before passing it along.

[...] Executive Order 12333, often referred to as "twelve triple-three," has attracted less debate than congressional wiretapping laws, but serves as authorization for the NSA's most massive surveillance programs — far more than the NSA's other programs combined. Under 12333, the NSA taps phone and internet backbones throughout the world, records the phone calls of entire countries, vacuums up traffic from Google and Yahoo's data centers overseas, and more.

In 2014, The Intercept revealed that the NSA uses 12333 as a legal basis for an internal NSA search engine that spans more than 850 billion phone and internet records and contains the unfiltered private information of millions of Americans.

[...] But this massive database inevitably includes vast amount of American's communications — swept up when they speak to people abroad, when they go abroad themselves, or even if their domestic communications are simply routed abroad. That's why access was previously limited to data that had already been screened to remove unrelated information and information identifying U.S. persons. The new rules still ostensibly limit access to authorized foreign intelligence and counterintelligence purposes — not ordinary law enforcement purposes — and require screening before they are more widely shared. But privacy activists are skeptical.


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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 16 2017, @07:20PM

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 16 2017, @07:20PM (#454469) Homepage Journal

    That's diplomacy, that is. Cake in one hand and a pistol in the other and asking which they'd prefer.

    Yes, I could have gone with the Eddy Izzard joke [youtube.com] but I prefer the Jim Butcher joke by a slight margin.

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  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 17 2017, @05:26AM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 17 2017, @05:26AM (#454748) Journal

    And here I always thought diplomacy was telling the other guy to go to hell in such a way that he looked forward to the trip. Your definition sounds more like swaggering, masturbatory bullying with a hint of bluff thrown in.

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    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday January 17 2017, @06:16AM

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday January 17 2017, @06:16AM (#454763) Homepage Journal

      You are a very angry woman to not be able to spot a joke. You should try fishing. It's very calming.

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      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 17 2017, @06:30PM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 17 2017, @06:30PM (#455004) Journal

        Tone policing is, as I've said, the last refuge of the scoundrel :) Repeat after me: angry != wrong.

        As to fishing, well, with two jobs I haven't got the time. It is nice, though, so long as I can eat what I haul up.

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        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday January 17 2017, @09:14PM

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday January 17 2017, @09:14PM (#455070) Homepage Journal

          See? I try to be helpful and this is the thanks that I get. Definitely Angry with a capital A.

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          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 17 2017, @09:39PM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 17 2017, @09:39PM (#455091) Journal

            Thanks for proving my point :) Angry != wrong. Do you need a safe space? Have I triggered your delicate, special snowflake fee-fees, cupcake?

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            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday January 17 2017, @11:17PM

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday January 17 2017, @11:17PM (#455140) Homepage Journal

              Poor you. So unhappy you can't even tell when someone's trying to help you. I'm telling you, try fishing. It's highly relaxing and can even almost pay for itself in reduced food bills.

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              My rights don't end where your fear begins.
              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday January 18 2017, @01:22AM

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday January 18 2017, @01:22AM (#455192) Journal

                Aaaaaand the point goes sailing leisurely over your pointed little head at around Mach 3.4 as usual. Let's try this another way: reality has no obligation to make you happy. That a delusion makes you happier than reality is no more to the point than that a drunkard may be happier than a sober man (or woman).

                Besides, if this is getting tiresome, maaaaaaybe you can stop hanging all over my every post like a lost puppy with attachment issues...?

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                • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday January 18 2017, @01:45AM

                  by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday January 18 2017, @01:45AM (#455198) Homepage Journal

                  Nah, darlin, happiness is a choice. You can choose to wallow in every little trouble in the world or you can choose to enjoy the good things in life. I really wish you'd do the latter too. Lesbians are like 65% more likely to physically abuse their partner than any other group. Yes, you're statistically more likely to become violent to your lady friend than a drunken redneck is. While I wouldn't mind you going to Canada, it wouldn't make me happy at all for you to go to prison. Please look into finding some joy in your life.

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                  My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday January 18 2017, @02:28AM

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday January 18 2017, @02:28AM (#455204) Journal

                    You're trying too hard, Uzzard. I think you're really upset about me ragging on you for drinking and shooting...boy, did you ever throw a Trumpian tantrum over that one :)

                    Also consider: lesbians may be more likely to *report* DV than straight women..or men of ANY sexual orientation. There's a shocking amount of woman-on-man violence out there you know. Remember, you may not have all the data here. I *have* had an abusive girlfriend, but she's bisexual, not gay...and last I heard was with an abusive man herself, so what goes around comes around.

                    As to the good things, well, they're few and far between, and considering I work with people who have been abused and thrown away *on my own time,* in addition to two jobs, there's not too much time to enjoy them. That said...cooking, walking in the rain, hot showers, tea, emulators...they're real.

                    Thanks for the (fake) concern; you need to step up your troll game to get through to me though. Doubly so now that I got some magnesium pills; those things could probably replace a lot of peoples' benzo and SSRI prescriptions!

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                    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday January 18 2017, @02:57AM

                      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday January 18 2017, @02:57AM (#455211) Homepage Journal

                      Might also consider that there's only so much of each of us to go around. Spread yourself too thin and you're at best half-assing everything and just piling up the stress. You may or may not be a big bible fan. I'm not especially but it does have some specific bits that're really damned good advice. The bit about taking a day off a week is particularly sage. Lets you spend some you time and top up your give-a-shit tanks. Makes everything you do through the rest of the week more productive/effective and keeps you from going postal on folks what aren't deserving of it.

                      And I'm not concern trolling you. I'm genuinely being nice cause I know you'll have no idea how to handle it.

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                      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday January 18 2017, @04:29AM

                        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday January 18 2017, @04:29AM (#455236) Journal

                        Ah, you think I've never known good people or good things? That, Uzzard, is WHY I fight so hard. I have far more stamina than you think, mostly because I don't abuse my body with cheap beer and even cheaper cigarettes. My life is not my own; it should have ended years ago. So I use it to help others. Now THERE is something one of us can't comprehend, and it's not me.

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                        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday January 18 2017, @11:34AM

                          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday January 18 2017, @11:34AM (#455326) Homepage Journal

                          Right, now I am insulted. Cheap cigarettes sure. I buy untreated with nasty chemicals loose tobacco and roll my own. Cheap beer though? Never!

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                          My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday January 18 2017, @10:15PM

                            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday January 18 2017, @10:15PM (#455733) Journal

                            You could really use a session with a good domme. You keep following me around like you want something degrading and painful from me. Sorry but as a strict vagitarian, no can do.

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                            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday January 18 2017, @10:42PM

                              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday January 18 2017, @10:42PM (#455750) Homepage Journal

                              Nah. Wouldn't work. I have yet to meet a woman under 70 who is even my equal and they're right out on account of wrinkly, knee-slapping knockers. I mean, you like chicks... would you dig on someone's grandma at your age? Then ponder if you will, getting all submissive to someone who started every sentence with "Duh..." and you'll see where I'm coming from.

                              Actually, I take that back. My shrink is wicked sharp and my age give or take five years. Really lucked into her. She's the only shrink I ever met who I didn't have to quit seeing after a session or two as they were too far below me to envision what things might be like for me. Damn shame she's my shrink. And married.

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                              My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday January 19 2017, @02:29AM

                                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday January 19 2017, @02:29AM (#455851) Journal

                                ...you know, you don't seem to understand how bad the things you say make you look. That one made me do the Anchorman pose ("Well...THAT escalated quickly!"). You also have much too high an opinion of yourself.

                                Aaaaaaand you keep taking the bait. At this point I mostly keep replying to you just to see what kind of crazy you're gonna spew next, and by Dagon you do not disappoint. Well, okay, in many ways you *do* disappoint, but when it comes to output of sheer off-the wall masturbatory freak-show batshit, you're on the money.

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                                • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday January 19 2017, @11:44AM

                                  by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday January 19 2017, @11:44AM (#455994) Homepage Journal

                                  I really find it interesting the tactics you take. I mean you know that I don't care when you spout nonsense like that so you're obviously playing to the crowd. For someone who disliked Trump so much you certainly do use a lot of his tactics. You must have an exceptionally low opinion of the intelligence of our community here to think silliness like that is going to work out in your favor. Me, I have faith in their ability to see through highschool level debate strategies.

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                                  My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday January 19 2017, @09:02PM

                                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday January 19 2017, @09:02PM (#456225) Journal

                                    If you don't care, *why do you keep responding to me?* I'm not even really trying to troll you; I'm just amused and mildly interested (and sometimes slightly horrified...) by the responses I do get.

                                    By now I've got an excellent map of who and what you are...and who and what you are is, in two words, "small time." People like you are a dime a dozen. You're a competent coder and sysadmin but you have nothing else going for you, which is just sad. As bad as my life is, at least it's not so empty and self-centered as yours.

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                                    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday January 20 2017, @12:41AM

                                      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday January 20 2017, @12:41AM (#456315) Homepage Journal

                                      Really? How, precisely, do you know anything about my life except that I like to fish? I have a large family and plenty of friends and unlike you I don't let outside obligations cut into the time I spend enjoying their company. You? How do you even maintain a relationship with your girlfriend, working two jobs and giving the rest of your time to causes? How long would it even take you to notice your SO had left you for neglect? Three days? A whole week? You might want to start checking every morning because it's most assuredly going to happen if you keep on like you are. I guarantee it. I have never met a woman who would stand for not coming first in her partner's life and she obviously does not in yours.

                                      I know it kills you that I have an entire life outside the comments here that I'm quite happy in and you can't even begin to intrude on. You're just going to have to learn to live with it though. Even if you showed up in person you wouldn't rate as important enough to make me annoyed for so much as a morning. Really, the best you could hope for is the ten minutes or so while the coffee is brewing. I'd offer to pencil you in for that time but I've already got important nicotine obligations that I'm busy with during that time slot.

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                                      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                                      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday January 20 2017, @02:52AM

                                        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday January 20 2017, @02:52AM (#456344) Journal

                                        And little by little, the flimsy, cheap mask of cocky arrogance is cracking...now you're mad, really mad. And you're gonna show that no-good fucking dyke just what a failure she is and how useless all her virtue-signalling overextension will be, riiiiiight? :D

                                        You seem to think I somehow don't make time for Elizabeth. That's...naive. You have even less insight into my life than I do yours, but here's a clue: the anti-trafficking thing? BOTH of us are on that. We have both had multiple brushes with death and have thought long and hard about it, and come to the conclusion that our lives should be animated by higher causes than, as in your case, where the next cigarette is coming from or how to kill time getting tipsy and shooting in random directions.

                                        And you're trying so, so, so hard to hurt me. It's not working. Your attacks are so sophomoric, so predictable, and so utterly lowball I'm actually insulted by *that* part of them, not their content. Not to mention, you seem to be speaking from bitter experience with "have never met a woman who would stand for not coming first in her partner's life and she obviously does not in yours."

                                        You are mistaken, my beer-swilling friend. She is the first thing in my life. I saved her from suicide all those years ago, but she is what keeps me going, gives me reason to continue fighting these awful odds, in the face of every single jaw-droppingly unlucky "fuck you" that's come my way. We grow one another in ways neither of could alone. The sum of the parts is most definitely greater than the whole, emergentism in action.

                                        You will never, ever understand this. Your second paragraph, which I'm sure you intended to be a devastating coup-de-grace, is so much empty noise. Attacks like that can't even scratch me, and you won't ever understand why THAT is, either. Just know that in the end, I don't hate you; I *pity* you. If and when you ever come to see why, you'll know why you can't touch me with those.

                                        ...but feel free to keep trying :)

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                                        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday January 20 2017, @03:11AM

                                          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday January 20 2017, @03:11AM (#456356) Homepage Journal

                                          Mad? I checked the forecast earlier and tomorrow is supposed to be excellent fishing with enough time for me to be leisurely about my coffee drinking in the morning. You couldn't get me mad this evening without poking holes in my boat. Looks from the length of that post that I didn't read past the first sentence or two of that I hit a nerve though.

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                                          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday January 20 2017, @03:54AM

                                            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday January 20 2017, @03:54AM (#456371) Journal

                                            *siiiigh* You're not fooling anyone, Uzzard. People are reading these things. They're seeing your disguise slipping, they're seeing you stoop lower and lower and lower, and watching me go higher and higher and higher. The very things you're calling weaknesses about me are strengths, and you've become so degraded that you can't see that. Every time you reply, your mask cracks a little more and it becomes a little more obvious to everyone watching what you are. And you don't even realize it...or, perhaps, won't even realize it. I'm beginning to feel guilty.

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                                            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday January 20 2017, @12:02PM

                                              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday January 20 2017, @12:02PM (#456483) Homepage Journal

                                              It's going to be 60F by 10am and the solunar conditions + barometric pressure all tell the fish to start biting around the same time and keep doing so until about 4pm today. My trolling motor battery is fully charged and the boat is cleaned and ready to go. My fishing license is still good for another 11 days. Ditto my lake permit. I still have easily a dozen minnows left over from the Wednesday trip in my bubbly bubbly minnow bucket. The only prep work I need to do is put gas in the car and the local Wal-Mart has it for just under $2/gal right now.

                                              tl;dr: "You can't touch this." -- MC Hammer

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                                              My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                                              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday January 20 2017, @06:56PM

                                                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday January 20 2017, @06:56PM (#456649) Journal

                                                I didn't even read that post. What makes you think I care about your selfish, useless life? You're going to have to give account of your (lack of) actions someday you know.

                                                Sorry, but everyone saw you get mad and break cover. It's too late. I'm replying to you to keep you flapping your gums, because I know you're that stupid and that upset, no matter how (badly) you try and hide it. You don't seem to understand how this works, which is all the better for me :)

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                                                • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday January 20 2017, @10:24PM

                                                  by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday January 20 2017, @10:24PM (#456731) Homepage Journal

                                                  Darlin, yer funny.

                                                  You Fishes

                                                  True today. True tomorrow. True every day from now until the end of time.

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                                                  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday January 20 2017, @10:25PM

                                                    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday January 20 2017, @10:25PM (#456734) Homepage Journal

                                                    You'd think I'd know to hit preview by now. Oh well. Should have been: You < Fishes

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                                                    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday January 20 2017, @10:36PM

                                                      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday January 20 2017, @10:36PM (#456743) Journal

                                                      You can't even insult someone properly, Uzzard. I'd say you've hit rock bottom, except with you there doesn't seem to BE a bottom. That was just sad.

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                                                      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday January 21 2017, @02:24AM

                                                        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday January 21 2017, @02:24AM (#456821) Homepage Journal

                                                        That wasn't an insult, just where you stand. If you need some clarification, here are a list of things that annoy me far more than you ever could:

                                                        Doing the dishes.
                                                        Hanging up/folding laundry.
                                                        Hard drives that last less than five years.
                                                        MySQL updates.
                                                        martyb breaking my perfectly good code.
                                                        Cold coffee.
                                                        Nose hairs.
                                                        Having to make tea if I want to have tea to drink.

                                                        Sorry, you're just not important enough. You couldn't make the list if I knew you in person even. I'm quite adept at not giving a shit about people. I just like playing with you.

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                                                        My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                                                        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday January 21 2017, @06:00AM

                                                          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday January 21 2017, @06:00AM (#456871) Journal
                                                          You're spending a lot of time and electrons trying to convince me I'm not bothering you :) Methinks the lady doth protest too much. Face it, Uzzard, you fucked up, and everyone can see it. And you keep fucking up, and everyone can see that too. Everyone, it seems, except you. I can keep this up as long as you can and longer still, honeybuns.

                                                          And why is this? Because you're small-time. Fish fish fish, LOL. Beer, fish, shooting, what a waste of oxygen you are. And you can't get enough of me. Always gotta get the last word in, always gotta prove to SN you didn't just get outclassed by a foul-mouthed dyke from the Northeast you hate so much. This is comedy gold. Keep it up, Uzzard!
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                                                          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...