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Eric S Raymond, author of "The Cathedral and the Bazaar", blogs via Ibiblio
I wanted to like Rust. I really did. I've been investigating it for months, from the outside, as a C replacement with stronger correctness guarantees that we could use for NTPsec [a hardened implementation of Network Time Protocol].
[...] I was evaluating it in contrast with Go, which I learned in order to evaluate as a C replacement a couple of weeks back.
[...] In practice, I found Rust painful to the point of unusability. The learning curve was far worse than I expected; it took me those four days of struggling with inadequate documentation to write 67 lines of wrapper code for [a simple IRC] server.
Even things that should be dirt-simple, like string concatenation, are unreasonably difficult. The language demands a huge amount of fussy, obscure ritual before you can get anything done.
The contrast with Go is extreme. By four days in of exploring Go, I had mastered most of the language, had a working program and tests, and was adding features to taste.
Have you tried using Rust, Go or any other language that might replace C in the future? What are your experiences?
(Score: 2) by Bethany.Saint on Monday January 16 2017, @10:30PM
We need to change society so that people only live till 30. Once they reach 30 we give them a big celebration whereupon we kill them. This would truly be a utopia.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by bob_super on Monday January 16 2017, @10:41PM
Considering the number of people under 30 who have mastered the subtleties of advanced analog design, it will soon be a no-tech utopia.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 16 2017, @10:42PM
Referencing a book from 50 years ago? How old of you.
No, we don't kill people over 30. We don't celebrate them. We ignore them. We exclude them from society. Presumably they kill themselves or starve to death or something. Life doesn't exist after 30.
(Score: 2) by BasilBrush on Tuesday January 17 2017, @06:21AM
Pedantry mode: Actually he's referencing a film. In the book, the Lastday comes when people reach 21. Take that young programmers!
Hurrah! Quoting works now!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 16 2017, @11:02PM
We need to change society so that people only live till 30. Once they reach 30 we give them a big celebration whereupon we kill them. This would truly be a utopia.
That's not a bad idea! We'd need to give the celebration a festive sounding name, what do you think of "Carrousel"?
We'd also, at least at first, feed them a line about being reincarnated afterwards. That way, they're not going to their deaths, they're going to "renew" themselves. Catchy! Sounds like a decent movie setting, if you can get a decent set of twentysomthing actors involved. Back in her prime, Farrah Fawcett [imdb.com] would have been a great choice for this.
=P
(Score: 2) by Fnord666 on Tuesday January 17 2017, @05:42AM
(Score: 2) by choose another one on Tuesday January 17 2017, @08:52PM
> Back in her prime, Farrah Fawcett would have been a great choice for this
Yeah but in that timeframe, someone like Jenny Agutter would have been really awesome, gotta Walkabout a bit before you run...
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 17 2017, @04:05AM