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posted by on Wednesday January 18 2017, @08:56AM   Printer-friendly
from the æ-þƿ-is-the-name-of-the-spy-in-my-novel dept.

Along quaint New England streets, you'll probably spot a sign or two declaring itself "Ye Olde Tavern" or "Ye Old Soda Shoppe." But before you adopt a British accent and order a pint of ale inside, there's a bit of history you should know.

Phrases like ye olde are actually just some of the late 19th century's first marketing ploys, meant to evoke a sentimental connection to older times. And ye has its own complicated story—based in the history of the alphabet.

English has always been a living language, changing and evolving with use. But before our modern alphabet was established, the language used many more characters we've since removed from our 26-letter lineup.

The six letters described in the article are: ð, þ, ƿ, ȝ, æ, and œ. Orthographic history is fun!


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  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday January 18 2017, @12:42PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday January 18 2017, @12:42PM (#455353) Journal

    Thanks for the interesting article. Those were mostly new to me.

    Esset, ß, the German double 's,' was used in early English too, wasn't it?

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  • (Score: 2) by fritsd on Wednesday January 18 2017, @01:35PM

    by fritsd (4586) on Wednesday January 18 2017, @01:35PM (#455376) Journal

    Esset, ß, the German double 's,' was used in early English too, wasn't it?

    I don't think so; I think you mean either the really uncommon ancient letter yogh (U+021D, ȝ) [wikipedia.org] or more probably the long s [wikipedia.org] that looks like an f : U+017F, ſ , and you can still find that one in books only 1-200 years old.

    It's quite difficult to get uſed to reading texts wiþ ðose long eſſes, I find.

    Maybe you just invented the Lovecraftian ligature sgh, though :-)

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 18 2017, @03:23PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 18 2017, @03:23PM (#455439)

      I assume based on its appearance in some typefaces that the German ß was originally simply a ligature of a long s followed by a regular s. It therefore seems possible that English-language typesetters may have used a similar ligature in the past.

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday January 18 2017, @05:06PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday January 18 2017, @05:06PM (#455516) Journal

      You're right. I half-remembered seeing it in the Declaration of Independence and other documents of the period and thought of it as ß.

      Either way there's a seventh letter to add to obsolete English orthography.

      I wonder if we'll ever see OMG or BFF or the like become ligatures the way et became &.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 18 2017, @07:07PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 18 2017, @07:07PM (#455618)

    If you look at handwritten American stuff from the 18th Century (e.g. The Declaration of Independence), you'll see that the style of the day had a double s written as a thing that looks like an exagerated lowercase f followed by a normal s.

    If I'm remembering correctly, it was "Stan Freberg Presents The United States of America Volume One" that poked fun at this when Thomas Jefferson was involved in a dialog.

    So, English speakers didn't keep the German thing intact, but did their own version.
    It seems that that went out with powdered wigs.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @02:31AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @02:31AM (#456340)

      That's actually a long s and s ligature (weird, I know).