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posted by Fnord666 on Friday January 20 2017, @05:42PM   Printer-friendly
from the is-Howard-Stern-listening-in-on-you? dept.

A recent techdirt article says that

Law Enforcement Has Been Using OnStar, SiriusXM, To Eavesdrop, Track Car Locations For More Than 15 Year

Thomas Fox-Brewster of Forbes is taking a closer look at a decade-plus of in-car surveillance, courtesy of electronics and services manufacturers are installing in as many cars as possible.

Following the news that cops are trying to sweat down an Amazon Echo in hopes of hearing murder-related conversations, it's time to revisit the eavesdropping that's gone on for years prior to today's wealth of in-home recording devices.

One of the more recent examples can be found in a 2014 warrant that allowed New York police to trace a vehicle by demanding the satellite radio and telematics provider SiriusXM provide location information.

In this case, SiriusXM complied by turning on its "stolen vehicle recovery" mode, which allowed law enforcement to track the vehicle for ten days. SiriusXM told Forbes it only does this in response to search warrants and court orders. That may be the case for real-time tracking, but any location information captured and stored by SiriusXM can be had with nothing more than a subpoena, as this info is normally considered a third-party record.

It's not just satellite radio companies allowing cops to engage in surreptitious tracking. OnStar and other in-vehicle services have been used by law enforcement to eavesdrop on personal conversations between drivers and passengers.

In at least two cases, individuals unwittingly had their conversations listened in on by law enforcement. In 2001, OnStar competitor ATX Technologies (which later became part of Agero) was ordered to provide "roving interceptions" of a Mercedes Benz S430V. It initially complied with the order in November of that year to spy on audible communications for 30 days, but when the FBI asked for an extension in December, ATX declined, claiming it was overly burdensome.

The 2001 case didn't end well for law enforcement. It wasn't that the court had an issue with the eavesdropping, but rather that the act of listening in limited the functionality of the in-car tech, which the court found to be overly-burdensome.

[...] Law enforcement may find encryption to be slowing things down in terms of accessing cell phone contents, but everything else -- from in-car electronics to the Internet of Things -- is playing right into their hands.

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  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday January 20 2017, @07:11PM

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 20 2017, @07:11PM (#456653) Journal

    OnStar should copy a feature of the Amazon Echo.

    Amazon Echo has a "privacy" button. (eg, Mic or Mute button)

    OnStar should have a similar feature.

    On the Amazon Echo, pressing this button alerts Amazon that you are about to discuss something especially interesting. OnStar should have this as well.

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  • (Score: 2) by Unixnut on Friday January 20 2017, @08:45PM

    by Unixnut (5779) on Friday January 20 2017, @08:45PM (#456691)

    > Amazon Echo has a "privacy" button. (eg, Mic or Mute button)

    This would help if it was a hard cut off, but I suspect like everything else nowadays, it is just wired to a pin for a "soft mute" like those webcam "powered on" LEDs that you could disable in software.

    Just a false feeling of security that.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by DannyB on Friday January 20 2017, @08:57PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 20 2017, @08:57PM (#456700) Journal

      The actual security is false. But the feeling of security is genuine.

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  • (Score: 2) by Joe Desertrat on Saturday January 21 2017, @10:29AM

    by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Saturday January 21 2017, @10:29AM (#456928)

    On the Amazon Echo, pressing this button alerts Amazon that you are about to discuss something especially interesting. OnStar should have this as well.

    That way they can forward it to their priority listening service.