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posted by CoolHand on Friday January 20 2017, @08:54PM   Printer-friendly
from the uncle-larry-won't-even-feel-it dept.

Submitted via IRC for Runaway1956

The U.S. Labor Department has sued Oracle America Inc, alleging that the technology company systematically paid its white, male employees more than other workers and unlawfully favored Asian applicants in its recruiting and hiring efforts.

The department in a complaint filed with an administrative judge in Washington said the company was prohibited from engaging in racial discrimination given the hundreds of millions of dollars it receives as a contractor with the federal government.

Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-oracle-usa-labor-idUSKBN1522O6


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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @10:25PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @10:25PM (#456733)

    Why is it okay to discriminate to only hire minorities but not to not hire them? Why can universities have invisible quotas they don't have that keep white kids from getting in, but they can't do it to minorities.

    #onlywhitesareracist

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  • (Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Friday January 20 2017, @10:29PM

    by Zz9zZ (1348) on Friday January 20 2017, @10:29PM (#456739)

    Yes it is a less than perfect solution to a problem but don't confuse affirmative action stuff with racism. Perhaps if the people who don't like such programs would be more open to helping out the less fortunate communities then we could do away with such stupid programs that give weight to race. Maybe it will not be as needed nowadays as the amount of latent racism (oooh a mexican name, I'll subconsciously rank that lower) in university officials has decreased. Hopefully.

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    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday January 21 2017, @01:03AM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 21 2017, @01:03AM (#456799) Journal

      Affirmative action IS RACISM. It is POLITICALLY CORRECT RACISM. Listen to yourself - "If white people helped out non-white people more, then such programs wouldn't be necessary."

      Let me ask you, how many minority groups ever worry about OTHER minority groups?

      If I may paraphrase you again, "If white people were actually superior to other people, then it wouldn't be necessary to give special consideration to non-white people."

      And, I insist that white people aren't any different than non-white people. Everyone you know does the same thing. Take care of numero uno first, then close family, then more distant family, then the neighborhood, so on up the chain. I've mentioned tribalism in several contexts. Mankind is tribal. You want your tribe to succeed, I want my tribe to succeed, everyone on earth wants his own tribe to succeed. That's how it is around the world, although it is taken to extremes in some parts of the world.

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by Zz9zZ on Saturday January 21 2017, @02:00AM

        by Zz9zZ (1348) on Saturday January 21 2017, @02:00AM (#456810)

        I specifically said "less fortunate communities" because there have been and still are actual attempts to harm communities that various people in power don't like. Affirmative action is a crappy solution, but it isn't quite on par with actual racism. There has been systemic racism for hundreds of years and it literally affects the lives of minorities as so many people have been conditioned to fear minorities or be prejudiced against them. What do you say to that? Too bad? Thank god your white and can more easily get a job? Unless you were crusading for equal rights and non-discrimination policies then get off your high horse, you're just a conservative that likes to imagine everyone is free and equal and its "their" fault for not succeeding.

        You may not paraphrase me, your understanding of my words is horrendously skewed. I never said anything about white people being superior so fuck right off with that shit, my comment was directed at all the people who actively try and subvert social welfare programs. The poverty trap is real and it doesn't only affect minorities. If such people would stop undermining everything, see the ACA for a perfect recent example along with all the tax cuts for the wealthy, then affirmative action would not be needed and we wouldn't have such crippling poverty and urban ghettos.

        The selfish tribalism (apparently some people can't get it through their skulls that their fellow countrymen are... THEIR FELLOW COUNTRYMEN) is the problem, with too many people keeping a "fuck you I got mine" attitude. A rising tide raises all ships, etc.

        All your post managed was to say "RACIST RACIST" just like you don't appreciate when people do it to you. Good job. You glossed right past my "its a less than perfect solution" and fail to address the other side of the issue. GOOD JOB RUNAWAY! EXCELLENT POINTS!

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        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday January 21 2017, @02:59AM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 21 2017, @02:59AM (#456830) Journal

          "subvert social welfare programs. The poverty trap is real"

          A phrase from two different sentences. Take those two phrases and try to build a new sentence. I come up with something like "welfare programs are a poverty trap, and should be subverted."

          All the money thrown at welfare programs simply do not improve neighborhoods, communities, cities, states, or regions. People get trapped in poverty when they rely on welfare programs. Random people, here and there, manage to beat that poverty trap, but communities do not. I'm not sure how welfare can be done right, but it's pretty obvious that we're doing it all wrong. The ghetto remains the ghetto, unless some "entrepreneur" pays officials to declare eminint domain, so that he can bulldoze a community to build some new worthless monument to capitalism.

          • (Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Saturday January 21 2017, @06:33PM

            by Zz9zZ (1348) on Saturday January 21 2017, @06:33PM (#457037)

            The basic income idea I think is the best possible method. It would eliminate a ton of bureaucracy and give people the freedom to improve their lives without fear of repercussions. Currently welfare recipients are in the double trap of poverty and welfare. Being poor makes it harder to improve your life, and being on welfare means getting a crap job might actually make you lose money and make the month to month harder. Basic income would also create massive liquidity since pretty much all of it will be injected back into the economy as rent, food, and bills.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday January 20 2017, @10:39PM

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday January 20 2017, @10:39PM (#456749) Journal

    Why is it okay to discriminate to only hire minorities but not to not hire them?
     
    It's not. That's why they are being sued for: unlawfully favored Asian applicants in its recruiting and hiring efforts.
     
    Did you even read the summary before firing off that tired talking point?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 21 2017, @01:21AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 21 2017, @01:21AM (#456805)

    Affirmative action in college admission don't work against the whites - it works against the Jews and Asians.