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posted by CoolHand on Monday January 23 2017, @08:11PM   Printer-friendly
from the nothing-funny-down-this-road dept.

Russia is inching towards utopian equality by considering a law that would decriminalize domestic violence:

The amendment would make "moderate" violence within families an administrative rather than criminal offence, punishable by a fine rather than a jail sentence. [...] The law was drafted by Yelena Mizulina, an ultra-conservative MP who was also behind the controversial Russian law banning "gay propaganda". She told parliament that "in Russian traditional families, the relationship between parents and their children is built on authority and power". She said it was ridiculous that people could be branded criminals "for a slap".

The Duma, the lower house of the Russian parliament, is due to hear the bill in a second reading next week, after passing it on the first reading by 386 votes to one. It needs to pass three readings in the Duma before it is moved to parliament's upper house, and then requires the signature of the president, Vladimir Putin.

[...] The amendment would decriminalise any violence that does not cause serious medical harm, which is defined as requiring hospital treatment. Beatings that leave bruises, scratches or bleeding but do not leave lasting negative health effects such as broken bones or concussion will no longer be criminal. If there is a second beating within a year, however, the case can be made a criminal one.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 24 2017, @04:39AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 24 2017, @04:39AM (#457946)

    Sorry to hear that you were a victim of abuse, and sorry to learn that you have chosen to perpetuate that cycle of violence, and that you consider that violence is justified. It is indeed hard for the human animal to overcome its origins in the muck. You may say that violence is justified, "under some circumstances", and of course, as the arbiter of those circumstances, you choose to play god, so to speak, though you have neither the capacity nor the forethought to play that role.

    A child's formative youngest years are spent layering on neural networks that are developed based on stimulation from the environment, starting from the blank slate, so to speak, that they are at birth. Those lower or oldest layers become a fundamental part of their personality, triggering responses and directing the flow of neural patterns at some level, all the way until exit in old age. As a self-aware entity, that child, once grown mentally, may attempt to overwrite that initial programming by layering on additional neural networks through thought, practice and self-struggle, but those fundamental layers never really go away. Except through wholesale destruction of brain matter in medically significant events. Take a look at the Scientific American Book of the Brain, if you want more detail about the process of brain development.

    In a nutshell, by beating your toddler, you're teaching them, at a fundamental level, to expect physical pain from their loved one (you) and that violence is ok. I wonder if they will be able to overcome that basic lesson later in life. Certainly you weren't.

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 24 2017, @05:39AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 24 2017, @05:39AM (#457958) Journal

    " by beating your toddler,"

    Not worth arguing with. If you regard smacking fingers as a beating, you are simply not worth arguing with.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 24 2017, @06:33AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 24 2017, @06:33AM (#457973)

      Wow, you're a liar too, maybe even to yourself, so much so that you probably don't even recognize the intellectual dishonesty. This is the statement you made

      Corporal punishment, administered for the best of reasons, and with only positive goals in mind - and people spazz out over it. All because asshats don't recognize that sometimes kids need a spanking.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 24 2017, @06:36AM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 24 2017, @06:36AM (#457974) Journal

        Smacked fingers, swatted little asses, corporal punishment. Or, did you have some other definition in mind? I can make a case for flogging or caning, but not with children. We were discussing children, after all.