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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday January 25 2017, @05:22AM   Printer-friendly
from the EPA-has-been-trumped dept.

The Trump administration has frozen grants and contracts by the Environmental Protection Agency, according to ProPublica, and blocked employees from providing updates on this change via social media. This could have big effects on the agency's budget and severely undercut its efforts.

In an email obtained by ProPublica, one EPA contractor writes that: "The new EPA administration has asked that all contract and grant awards be temporarily suspended, effective immediately. Until we receive further clarification, this includes task orders and work assignments."

Also, employees have been banned from providing updates to reporters or on social media. The internal memo specifies that no press releases will go out to external audiences, there will be "no blog messages" and media requests will be carefully screened. (Interestingly, the Department of Energy, a fellow federal agency, recently released new guidelines that specifically protects contractors and ensures that they can state their personal opinions.)

Source: The Verge

takyon: Here are some related stories happening at the same time:

USDA scrambles to ease concerns after researchers were ordered to stop publishing news releases, other documents
USDA disavows gag-order emailed to scientific research unit
Commerce nominee Ross promises to protect "peer-reviewed research" at NOAA
CDC postpones climate conference ahead of Trump takeover
Badlands National Park goes rogue with climate-change tweets


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  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by khallow on Thursday January 26 2017, @10:39AM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 26 2017, @10:39AM (#458868) Journal

    Funny you should say this, my dear and fluffy khallow! Did you think it was me? Or AntonK? Or turgid? Or the infamous g_weg? No, it matters little who is posting anonymously, since the point is made regardless.

    Well, I don't place great weight on vague, unsupported, anonymous accusations. One also needs some sort of history as well in order to have conversations. So no, the point is not made regardless. And since the rest of your post was a waste of my time, I instead want to address why I dipped my toes in this discussion in the first place.

    There are two key observations. First, this is a temporary situation. We just had a change of leadership at the EPA with the new leadership wanting to make radical changes to the organization. So it's not a surprise that relevant spending is now under review. This is also a bit of showboating. One of the rules of taking over is to make changes, even if they are superficial in order to demonstrate that things have changed. Let's give Trump some rope first before we hang him.

    And sorry, I'm not a big fan of the EPA. There's too much weird and vicious crap that the EPA does, such as: an institutional hostility to business that has been setting back the US for forty years, a significant contributor to the bulk and complexity of all US law (I'd have to look, but I recall the EPA contributing a page count of somewhere over 10% of all US regulation ever), and recent legal adventurism such as claiming [wikipedia.org] that one doesn't have standing to contest in court the imposition of massive fines until one pays the fines.

    Second, the speech side is not a new policy. The previous two administrations have been similarly obsessed about controlling the flow of information through these same venues and there's never been a time in US history when public employees were free to say in public whatever they felt like without potential negative consequences from their bosses and administrations.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday January 26 2017, @06:20PM

    by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday January 26 2017, @06:20PM (#459034) Journal

    So no, the point is not made regardless.

    Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man!

    And since the rest of your post was a waste of my time,

    You are quite welcome! Read me again in the future for more searing insight!

    I instead want to address why I dipped my toes in this discussion in the first place.

    Sorry, khallow, but no one really cares. Your intervention is sadly expected well before you made it.

        But two points:

    And sorry, I'm not a big fan of the EPA. There's too much weird and vicious crap that the EPA does,

    OK, you are a Republican, not just a conservative or libertariantard, so you hate regulations, and so you hate Nixon's Environmental Protection Agency. Nothing new or surprising here.

    Second, the speech side is not a new policy. The previous two administrations have been similarly obsessed about controlling the flow of information through these same venues

    Really? Is this "alternative history"? Don't recall any climate change deniers in the USDA or NASA or EPA being muzzled when the last legitimate President of the United States took office. We need citations for this one.

      And the switch to NASA was real clever! Old sleight of hand stuff, right there! As another AC said, almost up to frojack levels! On SoylentNews, we like our Herring Red, because only dead fish go with the flow (thanks, Sarah), and a Trump supporter rots from the head down.

      But I guess that's just the typical gibberish to be expected from khallow.
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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday January 26 2017, @08:46PM

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 26 2017, @08:46PM (#459124) Journal
      Wow, that was quite the knee-jerk there. I guess there is a real person somewhere in that mess after all. And your very intense apathy is welcome.

      Really? Is this "alternative history"? Don't recall any climate change deniers in the USDA or NASA or EPA being muzzled when the last legitimate President of the United States took office. We need citations for this one.

      From here [nytimes.com]:

      Longtime employees at three of the agencies — including some career environmental regulators who conceded that they remained worried about what President Trump might do on policy matters — said such orders were not much different from those delivered by the Obama administration as it shifted policies from the departing White House of George W. Bush. They called reactions to the agency memos overblown. On Wednesday, Douglas Ericksen, a spokesman for the E.P.A., said that grants had been only briefly frozen for review, and that they would be restarted by Friday.

      “I’ve lived through many transitions, and I don’t think this is a story,” said a senior E.P.A. career official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the news media on the matter. “I don’t think it’s fair to call it a gag order. This is standard practice. And the move with regard to the grants, when a new administration comes in, you run things by them before you update the website.”

      There you go. I think it's nice that the press is actually watching this time, but we need to remember the synergy of confirmation and observation bias that you display. Because you didn't know of the time Obama did this and did know of the time Trump did this, it became "muzzling".

      And the switch to NASA was real clever! Old sleight of hand stuff, right there! As another AC said, almost up to frojack levels! On SoylentNews, we like our Herring Red, because only dead fish go with the flow (thanks, Sarah), and a Trump supporter rots from the head down.

      Going from a pretty innocuous transition of power procedure to shutting down of some Canadian libraries and then extrapolating from that shut down to "erasing history" is overblown rhetoric. Did NASA intend to "erase history" when it reduced the holdings and size of its institutional libraries over the decades? Or the many libraries of colleges? There's plenty of cases where people close or reduce libraries with the usual consequences of doing so. We don't hyperventilate over it as intentional erasing of history in those cases.

      And the bizarre thing is that this isn't a red herring. It's merely an observation which several posters, including you, dear aristarchus, choose to misinterpret as actions of Trump and even Harper were misinterpreted in this very thread. It's a pattern (to use the vernacular of coding, an "anti-pattern") of irrationality.

      • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday January 27 2017, @07:28AM

        by aristarchus (2645) on Friday January 27 2017, @07:28AM (#459363) Journal

        including you, dear aristarchus, choose to misinterpret. . .

        Did you see that? khallow finally called me "dear"! Be still my beating heart!

        Louis, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

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