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posted by on Wednesday January 25 2017, @10:03PM   Printer-friendly
from the can't-spell-windows-without-win dept.

The Wine team has announced that version 2.0 of the Windows compatibility layer has been released.

The main highlights are the support for Microsoft Office 2013, and the 64-bit support on macOS.

[...] This is the first release made on the new time-based, annual release schedule. This implies that some features that are being worked on but couldn't be finished in time have been deferred to the next development cycle. This includes in particular the Direct3D command stream, the full HID support, the Android graphics driver, and message-mode pipes.

Do any soylentils still rely on Wine for that one irreplaceable application?


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by FatPhil on Wednesday January 25 2017, @11:56PM

    by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Wednesday January 25 2017, @11:56PM (#458736) Homepage
    We work in language services, and fortunately our clients are also happier with (or tied to) older .doc formats, so we're still using CrossOver Office (a commercial extension to Wine) from about 2004 for - get this - Office '97. Works fine, better than any subsequent version, no need to change. Nice and zippy on the ~2006-era hardware. (I think many of the clients have migrated to Office ~2003, but that's happy to read our '97 files)
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 26 2017, @02:29AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 26 2017, @02:29AM (#458783)

    Good to know that Linux & Crossover (or WINE) is an option for me in the future.

    I'm still using Office '97, have managed to install it on Win7 without too many error messages. My amateur workaround is to get Win7 updated to some reasonable state and then turn off updates completely, then install Office '97. Before that I ran Office '97 for years on XP. Couple of reasons -- one, I believe it's the last version of Office that doesn't call home to MS. Also, it's blazing fast and generally reliable on more recent hardware.

    I started using Office '97 when a customer demanded it...in 1998, and it was horrible back then. 50-100 page Word docs with embedded pictures or equations could take minutes to save or would just crash, losing data. I think having much more memory must make Word happy?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 26 2017, @02:48AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 26 2017, @02:48AM (#458786)

      I started using Office '97 when a customer demanded it...in 1998

      Have you tried those documents using a FOSS app?
      Is there something about the gratis and libre stuff that hasn't achieved compatibility with the 20 year old proprietary app?

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      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 26 2017, @04:10AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 26 2017, @04:10AM (#458805)

        > Is there something about the gratis and libre stuff that hasn't achieved compatibility with the 20 year old proprietary app?

        Yes, layered figures often display incorrectly, missing layers. This is true for .doc files created on Word which I try to open with Open Office. These are engineering figures pasted in from Matlab, sometimes they have many thousands of data points (100K?--I haven't counted, but redisplay in Word can take a second or two). Don't ask me, the customer wants it this way.

        Our 1998 customer insisted we use MathType (add-in to Word) for equations with picky formatting. The built-in MS-Equation Editor is a limited version of MathType, both from the same supplier. Word isn't perfectly compatible between versions, so it's just easier to stick with one version. By now I have internalized work-arounds for the problems/bugs that I used to have with Word-97.

        I just read a comment above that Libre Office might be better and I'll be trying that at some point.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 26 2017, @07:22AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 26 2017, @07:22AM (#458847)

          OpenOffice has been dead since the Oracle acquisition of SUN.

          Try LibreOfiice, which is the fork where the development has been happening for the last 5 (10?) years.

        • (Score: 1) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Thursday January 26 2017, @08:44AM

          by Scruffy Beard 2 (6030) on Thursday January 26 2017, @08:44AM (#458858)

          20 year too late, but I heard LaTeX is good for equations (I normally used a GUI called "lyx": a "What you see is what you mean" editor.

          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday January 27 2017, @09:59AM

            by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Friday January 27 2017, @09:59AM (#459402) Homepage
            A lot of our clients are academics, so we still get quite a lot of LaTeX jobs. I forget if my g/f uses LyX or TeXmacs for editing those. As a last resort, of course, there's always emacs. We like those clients, we don't just send the final files to them, we send the 'diff's for their quick review, which they appreciate. So infinitely more advanced than any document revision control in any office suite I know of.
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