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posted by on Wednesday January 25 2017, @10:03PM   Printer-friendly
from the can't-spell-windows-without-win dept.

The Wine team has announced that version 2.0 of the Windows compatibility layer has been released.

The main highlights are the support for Microsoft Office 2013, and the 64-bit support on macOS.

[...] This is the first release made on the new time-based, annual release schedule. This implies that some features that are being worked on but couldn't be finished in time have been deferred to the next development cycle. This includes in particular the Direct3D command stream, the full HID support, the Android graphics driver, and message-mode pipes.

Do any soylentils still rely on Wine for that one irreplaceable application?


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  • (Score: 2) by edIII on Thursday January 26 2017, @09:23PM

    by edIII (791) on Thursday January 26 2017, @09:23PM (#459150)

    Why do that though? Why fight Microsoft so hard for the privacy and dignity we deserve while computing with our devices that we own?

    Failure is catastrophic. Once you fail to protect yourself, once the pirates fail (even once) to turn off telemetry, Microsoft has all of your data. All of your keystrokes. Every single thing you ask Cortana for help with. I dunno about you, but that seems like a losing battle. Or at least one in which you may be running a possibly compromised operating system.... either by the pirates or Microsoft. It's not like Microsoft cloud data is zero knowledge or anything. Far from it, they peruse that data to offer you "enhanced services".

    At this point we need to pick our battles. I think we need to push as hard as possible for another operating system that can handle both games and work. Linux is getting better every single day for supporting games natively, and projects like WINE and ReactOS will ultimately make it possible to have an alternate Microsoft-like environment to run programs. For older retro gaming, there is nothing realistically stopping us from running Windows XP in a dedicated VM, or waiting for ReactOS to mature sufficiently to run all older programs natively.

    Normally, I would agree with you. Since Microsoft is attacking Business Data, and as a BUSINESS, I'm forced to surrender my Business Data to an untrusted and untrustworthy vendor.... well... the only options now are non-Microsoft options. If I'm going to have to work that hard for business reasons, I'm sure as hell not going to keep Microsoft going in my personal life too.

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  • (Score: 2, Disagree) by Hairyfeet on Friday January 27 2017, @07:18AM

    by Hairyfeet (75) <{bassbeast1968} {at} {gmail.com}> on Friday January 27 2017, @07:18AM (#459357) Journal

    Because Linux is a server OS and Apple sucks just as hard? I'm sorry but Linux is a shitty desktop OS, its support for the latest hardware is poor (and its support for older hardware frankly ain't that great) and the reason why is obvious...servers don't need support for desktop hardware. If you look at the amount of money spent on Linux and who spends it? Its Red Hat, HP, VM hosting companies....all corps that need servers NOT desktops.

    Hell Linux still doesn't have features that Windows introduced with XP (where is a simple system restore for when an update goes bad? Where is a simple rolback drivers button for when a driver craps out? Oh yeah it don't exist even after 17 fricking years) and as long as there is no way to make any money of Linux desktops? That isn't gonna change, even Canonical is more about cloud than desktop anymore.

    Does this make Linux worthless? Nope it makes a kick ass server, or if you want an embedded OS that isn't gonna be hooked to the net, like a media jukebox? Linux works wonderfully for that. But I'm sorry but the latest and greatest Linux doesn't have feature parity with windows and OSX from a decade ago, it isn't gonna compete with Windows or OSX, spyware or not. This is why Windows Pirate Edition will have more users in a month than Linux has had in 20 years, its just a better desktop.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Aiwendil on Friday January 27 2017, @01:45PM

      by Aiwendil (531) on Friday January 27 2017, @01:45PM (#459442) Journal

      where is a simple system restore for when an update goes bad?

      Hit tab twice when "LILO" is showing was it the last time I had to do it (gives you a menu, select with arrows and enter)..
      Yeah, not been happening to me for that long (more than ten years).

      Where is a simple rollback drivers button for when a driver craps out? Oh yeah it don't exist even after 17 fricking years

      apt-get install package/stable
      -or-
      apt-get install package=version
      -or-
      dpkg -i fullnameandpathto.deb

      Some dists even has graphical package managers that you can get a list of all installed packages and pick which version you want of all that your machine are aware of - so yeah, it is there.

      But overall you're probably better off just doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade (or hitting "update" and then "upgrade" in your clicky-thing, same thing really) and not running testing, unstable nor experimental (ie - stick to stable) unless you are comfortable with reading and following instructions.

      So, it is there - just that you need to know that you are doing a downgrade (you know, the antonym of "upgrade") or an install of a specific version when you search for it.

      • (Score: 2) by Aiwendil on Friday January 27 2017, @01:49PM

        by Aiwendil (531) on Friday January 27 2017, @01:49PM (#459445) Journal

        Sorry if it came off a bit hard - spent parts of last month with tellung people (over phone) to click on icons that they insisted wasn't there despite them listing them when asked to list what they see. One of the issues was indeed solved with the update/upgrade.