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posted by on Friday January 27 2017, @04:01AM   Printer-friendly
from the the-ancestral-hobbit-homeland dept.

During their investigation of the purchase of a large estate in New Zealand by Peter Thiel, Matt Nippert and Anne Gibson, reporters for The New Zealand Herald, noticed that certain processes required by the Overseas Investment Act had not been followed. The explanation: Peter Thiel is a NZ citizen and hence wasn't required to follow the procedures for an overseas investment.

If Thiel is so sure that Trump will deliver, why does he need a bolt hole and more importantly, citizenship in another country?

The New York Times adds:

One question being asked was why Mr. Thiel became a New Zealander in 2011. Close behind that was how it happened.

If you like New Zealand enough to want to become a citizen, the country's Internal Affairs Department noted on Wednesday, one requirement is "to have been physically in New Zealand for a minimum of 1,350 days in the five years preceding the citizenship application." Another requirement is that you "continue to reside" there after becoming a citizen.

Mr. Thiel, 49, does not appear to have done either.

[...] If Mr. Thiel was not a resident in New Zealand for the necessary amount of time, an exception must have been made. The government has not responded to questions about whether that happened and, if so, what the reason was.


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Whoever on Friday January 27 2017, @04:55AM

    by Whoever (4524) on Friday January 27 2017, @04:55AM (#459324) Journal

    And besides, the United States does not recognize dual-citizenship. (except in the case of the "special" nation. They usually do not terminate citizenship, but the fact remains that if Thiel is a Kiwi, he is no longer an American.

    False. The USA doesn't recognize dual-citizenship, but it also does not ban it. Source: several members of my family have two passports and the USA knows about it. It can complicate getting a security clearance, but doesn't disqualify the dual-citizen from getting clearance.

    There are acts that could jeopardize a dual-citizen's status as a US citizen, but it's in no way automatic. These days it is generally difficult to give up US citizenship.

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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 27 2017, @05:21AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 27 2017, @05:21AM (#459327)

    Not False! Just "alternative immigration law." And of course, having to actually pay taxes is usually enough to get these types to renounce. Loyalty, it's not just for nations anymore!

  • (Score: 2) by Nollij on Sunday February 05 2017, @03:03PM

    by Nollij (4559) on Sunday February 05 2017, @03:03PM (#463118)

    The USA doesn't recognize dual-citizenship, but it also does not ban it

    Citizenship is granted by the respective countries, according to their own laws. Each country can also revoke citizenship according to its own laws, and a person may also renounce. There is simply no need to recognize dual-citizenship in the first place.

    Traditionally, to become a US citizen, you must renounce any other citizenship. This is no longer the case, but is the likely source of that claim. Not all other countries have the same requirement.
    It's also common for children of a citizen to automatically become citizens - famous examples include Barack Obama (Kenyan, because of his father, until he was 23) [factcheck.org] and Ted Cruz (US, because of both of his parents) [cnn.com]

    To revoke someone's citizenship is not a simple task [findlaw.com]. Unless he renounced, Thiel is most certainly still a US citizen.