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posted by takyon on Saturday January 28 2017, @09:22PM   Printer-friendly

President Trump's executive order banning people from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S. also applies to green card holders from those countries, the Department of Homeland Security said Saturday. "It will bar green card holders," acting DHS spokeswoman Gillian Christensen told Reuters.

Green cards serve as proof of an individual's permanent legal residence in the U.S. A senior administration official clarified on Saturday afternoon that green card holders from the seven countries affected in the order who are currently outside the U.S. will need a case-by-case waiver to return to the U.S. Green card holders in the U.S. will have to meet with a consular officer before departing the country, the official said.

Source: The Hill

At least one case quickly prompted a legal challenge as lawyers representing two Iraqi refugees held at Kennedy International Airport in New York filed a motion early Saturday seeking to have their clients released. They also filed a motion for class certification, in an effort to represent all refugees and other immigrants who they said were being unlawfully detained at ports of entry. Shortly after noon on Saturday, Hameed Khalid Darweesh, an interpreter who worked on behalf of the United States government in Iraq, was released. After nearly 19 hours of detention, Mr. Darweesh began to cry as he spoke to reporters, putting his hands behind his back and miming handcuffs.

[...] Inside the airport, one of the lawyers, Mark Doss, a supervising attorney at the International Refugee Assistance Project, asked a border agent, "Who is the person we need to talk to?"

"Call Mr. Trump," said the agent, who declined to identify himself.

[...] An official message to all American diplomatic posts around the world provided instructions about how to treat people from the countries affected: "Effective immediately, halt interviewing and cease issuance and printing" of visas to the United States. Confusion turned to panic at airports around the world, as travelers found themselves unable to board flights bound for the United States. In Dubai and Istanbul, airport and immigration officials turned passengers away at boarding gates and, in at least one case, ejected a family from a flight they had boarded.

[...] Iranian green card holders who live in the United States were blindsided by the decree while on vacation in Iran, finding themselves in a legal limbo and unsure whether they would be able to return to America. "How do I get back home now?" said Daria Zeynalia, a green card holder who was visiting family in Iran. He had rented a house and leased a car, and would be eligible for citizenship in November. "What about my job? If I can't go back soon, I'll lose everything."

Source: The New York Times


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday January 29 2017, @01:41AM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday January 29 2017, @01:41AM (#460024) Journal

    Did you look closely at the list of countries immigration is banned from, and those it is NOT banned from? The split is entirely along the lines of "what countries does Benito the Cheeto have business interests in?" Notice how Saudi Arabia is NOT on the list, despite the fact that most of the 11 Sept. hijackers were Saudis?

    I'd maybe have a little more respect for this idea if he was consistent and banning ALL Muslim immigration. As you know, I am no fan of Islam.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @02:09AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @02:09AM (#460044)

    I'd maybe have a little more respect for this idea if he was consistent and banning ALL Muslim immigration. As you know, I am no fan of Islam.

    Oh, I thought you hated all Abrahamic religions equally.
    When are you going to call for banning entry from all christian majority countries?
    Yeah, that's what I thought.

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday January 29 2017, @03:31AM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday January 29 2017, @03:31AM (#460105) Journal

      Most of the supposed Christian majority countries are ChrINOs, if you take my meaning. They're cultural Christians. Though TBH I'd like to see a ban on Russian immigration, considering the Orthodox church's bizarre relationship with Putin. Y'know, now that we've stooped to the level of banning immigration for religious reasons.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 29 2017, @02:18AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 29 2017, @02:18AM (#460050) Journal

    Azuma - sometimes I hate you, LOL.

    Some buttwipe modded me "troll", and I saw your name right below it. I reach for the mod button to give it right back to you, but I actually read your post before modding. Dammit.

    Yeah, you're right. Saudi Arabia should lead the list of banned countries. I have been sickened for years with our cozy relationship with the House of Saud. I've often talked about tribal politics, and Saud epitomizes everything that is wrong with tribalism.

    It seems that every corrupt son of a bitch in this country who weilds power has close relations with the House of Saud. Maybe I exaggerate, but Herr Bush was closeted with a Saud soon after 9/11/01. Bush bent over backward to avoid offending the Saudis.

    And, part of me agrees with those who want to nuke Mecca and Medina, and every other holy site Islam owns. That would erase Saudi Arabia from the map.

    You KNOW that the House of Saud is well and truly fucked up, when they can generate a whole new viral form of Islam that believes the rest of Islam isn't violent enough. Suadi Arabia and Wahhabiland are just about synonymous.

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday January 29 2017, @03:30AM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday January 29 2017, @03:30AM (#460103) Journal

      I never hate you; I just pity you. You are so, so close to getting it sometimes, and then you disappear up your own asshole for weeks at a stretch. I know you were fucked up by what happened to you as a kid, and then as a young adult, but you don't have to continue that cycle.

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      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 29 2017, @03:35AM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 29 2017, @03:35AM (#460107) Journal

        Oh, FFS - you talk about disappearing up an asshole, then you start with the psycho-cocksucker bullshit. Pull your own head out, alright?

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @04:08AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @04:08AM (#460119)

          That's what happens when you share details, people can put some pieces together and maybe see the motivations behind some actions. Hazy psycho babble sure, but doesn't mean there isn't some truth.

          From what I've seen, on one hand you see a lot of crazy messed up things, but other times you preach the crazy messed up things.

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday January 29 2017, @05:15PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday January 29 2017, @05:15PM (#460302) Journal

          The AC below you is correct. You are more damaged than you realize. That in itself doesn't make everything you say automatically wrong, but to people who can see the patterns of abuse and know in broad terms what they do to the sufferers, it makes motives you think are hidden turn very, very transparent.

          Break. The. Cycle. You are not what was done to you. You are you.

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          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 29 2017, @07:05PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 29 2017, @07:05PM (#460349) Journal

            So, basically, you are justifying certain presumptions common to many liberal minded people. I'm damaged. Well - is there truth in the common presumption that a bride who was raped is also "damaged goods"? Are you saying that no decent man would ever want a rape victim for a wife?

            Then, you're also justifying presumptions that a black male growing up in the ghetto is damaged, and that he will never amount to anything. And, statistics seem to support your presumption.

            And, finally, you have justified my presumption that a lot of Muslim immigrants are bad for this country, and that Trump is right.

            Stick all of that where the sun don't shine - and enjoy it.

            You can't tell us that every individual is unique, when you like those individuals, then turn around and tell me that I'm transparent, predictable, and whatever else because I shared a little of my early life with you.

            If that isn't clear enough for you, Azuma, then let me put it this way: You're full of shit.

            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday January 29 2017, @09:08PM

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday January 29 2017, @09:08PM (#460394) Journal

              Wow, false equivalencies out the asshole.

              You know what? I work with rape victims, many of them *commercial* rape victims. Fuck yeah they're damaged...but that doesn't make them less people. Your mistake is that you assume I think of people as goods, even using the phrase in scare quotes. Go to Hell.

              Similarly, fuck yeah growing up in the ghetto is gonna damage people. That, again, doesn't mean they're less human for it. Go to Hell for this too.

              And no, I haven't justified shit you said, idiot. I'm not saying you aren't unique (sorry, special snowflake, didn't mean to hurt your feelings here). You're damaged, sure, but so am I. That doesn't mean you're "Just another X" in my eyes, it means "I've seen the patterns of this damage before, and combined with your post history I have a very good idea of what you will say and when."

              If you don't like this--and the extreme vehemence of your reaction, which I ALSO predicted, bears this out--too bad. If it bothers you so very much to be so predictable, start putting some effort into breaking the bonds of your past, rather than using them as an excuse to lash out.

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              I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @06:20AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @06:20AM (#460157)

      Why hasn't mecca and merdina been nuked?
      Root of all evil and all that

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @04:45PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @04:45PM (#460287)

      If you nuke the Muslim holy lands, you also need to hit SLC, Jerusalem, Vatican City, Wherever the Eastern Orthodox Christian's place is, A variety of places in India, and don't forget LA to take out the Scientologists.

      And that is before cleaning house on the political groups who might as well be religions.