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posted by takyon on Saturday January 28 2017, @09:22PM   Printer-friendly

President Trump's executive order banning people from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S. also applies to green card holders from those countries, the Department of Homeland Security said Saturday. "It will bar green card holders," acting DHS spokeswoman Gillian Christensen told Reuters.

Green cards serve as proof of an individual's permanent legal residence in the U.S. A senior administration official clarified on Saturday afternoon that green card holders from the seven countries affected in the order who are currently outside the U.S. will need a case-by-case waiver to return to the U.S. Green card holders in the U.S. will have to meet with a consular officer before departing the country, the official said.

Source: The Hill

At least one case quickly prompted a legal challenge as lawyers representing two Iraqi refugees held at Kennedy International Airport in New York filed a motion early Saturday seeking to have their clients released. They also filed a motion for class certification, in an effort to represent all refugees and other immigrants who they said were being unlawfully detained at ports of entry. Shortly after noon on Saturday, Hameed Khalid Darweesh, an interpreter who worked on behalf of the United States government in Iraq, was released. After nearly 19 hours of detention, Mr. Darweesh began to cry as he spoke to reporters, putting his hands behind his back and miming handcuffs.

[...] Inside the airport, one of the lawyers, Mark Doss, a supervising attorney at the International Refugee Assistance Project, asked a border agent, "Who is the person we need to talk to?"

"Call Mr. Trump," said the agent, who declined to identify himself.

[...] An official message to all American diplomatic posts around the world provided instructions about how to treat people from the countries affected: "Effective immediately, halt interviewing and cease issuance and printing" of visas to the United States. Confusion turned to panic at airports around the world, as travelers found themselves unable to board flights bound for the United States. In Dubai and Istanbul, airport and immigration officials turned passengers away at boarding gates and, in at least one case, ejected a family from a flight they had boarded.

[...] Iranian green card holders who live in the United States were blindsided by the decree while on vacation in Iran, finding themselves in a legal limbo and unsure whether they would be able to return to America. "How do I get back home now?" said Daria Zeynalia, a green card holder who was visiting family in Iran. He had rented a house and leased a car, and would be eligible for citizenship in November. "What about my job? If I can't go back soon, I'll lose everything."

Source: The New York Times


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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 29 2017, @04:18AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 29 2017, @04:18AM (#460125) Journal

    I think you're kinda helping me to make my point. The inquisitors were finally put down, of course. Islam accepts their not-so-very-small minority. Despite our wishes, ISIS enjoys both active and tacit support from the rest of Islam. They enjoy more Muslim support than they suffer Muslim condemnation. Money and recruits continue to filter in to ISIS. If and when the money and recruits disappear, then ISIS will be finished.

    And, what will replace ISIS? We probably won't like that a lot more than we like ISIS.

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  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday January 29 2017, @04:26AM

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday January 29 2017, @04:26AM (#460131)

    Yeah, Amin my office mate is all about supporting ISIS. Every day on the way home to pick his kid up from school, he stops off at the local ISIS camp to offer his support, NOT.

    Islam is a tremendously large religion, 23% of the world population (as compared to Christianity's collective 31%). Worldwide, not even 1% of muslims are militant or supportive of militant muslims. Now, 1% of 1.6 billion is still 16 million, or >10x the size of the U.S. Armed forces, but you don't go around discriminating against 1.6 billion people for what a couple of million people do "in their name."

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @04:30AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @04:30AM (#460134)

      Yeah, Amin my office mate is all about supporting ISIS. Every day on the way home to pick his kid up from school, he stops off at the local ISIS camp to offer his support, NOT.

      That's because he's not a real muslim.
      Just ask derpaway. If you aren't wild-eyed ISIS you aren't a legit muslim. You don't really know your own religion. But derpdick does!
      Either that or you are pretending, just waiting for the right chance to go all eid-al-fitr on some infidel's ass.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @06:31AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @06:31AM (#460159)

      Guy works at my office left a highly paid job to spend three years at mecca for some religious duty.
      He kept on going about how halal meat is cleaner, women should cover themselves, etc etc. People at the office just smiled and nodded and ignored him.
      Now we have ten more like him. It was disturbing seeing a young women at work being told in the tea room that she should cover up and get married

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @04:47AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @04:47AM (#460140)

    Despite our wishes, ISIS enjoys both active and tacit support from the rest of Islam.

    You could not be further from the truth: [pewresearch.org]

    % of population with favorable / unfavorable view of ISIS

    Lebanon:       0% / 100%
    Israel:        1% / 97%
    Jordan:        3% / 94%
    Palestine:     6% / 84%
    Indonesia:     4% / 79%
    Turkey:        8% / 73%
    Nigeria:      14% / 66%
    Burkina Faso:  8% / 64%
    Malaysia:     11% / 64%
    Senegal:      11% / 60%
    Pakisatn:      9% / 28%

    American christians are more supportive of terrorism [gallup.com] than the 3.2 million american muslims:

    Percent who say it is never justified for an individual or small group to kill civilians.

    Muslims:        89%
    Protestant:     71%
    Catholic:       71%
    Jewish:         75%
    Mormon:         79%
    non-religious:  76%

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 29 2017, @07:35AM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 29 2017, @07:35AM (#460167) Journal

      ROFLMAO @ Lebanon 0%/100% With such a preposterous leadin, the other numbers aren't even worthy of discussion. Obviously, no one went to the trouble of polling any members of Hezbollah. I'll bet I could get the same results in Lebanon, if I stayed in Beirut, and polled people arriving and departing the airport. However, if I were to include airport workers in the poll, the results would shift a little bit.

      If you went out into the countryside, and found a nice little Hezbollah stronghold, you could probably reverse those numbers.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @09:03AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @09:03AM (#460185)

        ROFLMAO @ Lebanon 0%/100% With such a preposterous leadin,

        Again, Runaway? Really, again? You obviously know nothing about Lebanon if you are surprised by the figures. Hezbollah? The Druze? Do you possibly not even know that major factions in Lebanon are Christian? And that the Muslims are predominately Shia? Oh, you, like the President of Small Hands and Little Knowledge, do not understand the difference between Shia and Sunni? Not to mention the Sufis. So seriously, Runaway, you are only embarrassing yourself, and your nation, by so openly displaying your ignorance without the slightest indication that you are even the slightest bit aware of how profound your ignorance is.

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 29 2017, @10:58AM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 29 2017, @10:58AM (#460206) Journal

          Unlike you, I have actually been to Lebanon. Seriously, Aristarchus, you're only making my case. With all those different factions, you're not going to find 100% agreement on any honestly conducted poll in Lebanon. You're far more likely to get a poll with a result of 100% right here in the US. Good luck with that.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @11:55AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @11:55AM (#460216)

        > Hezbollah

        Wait. Let me get this straight. You think Hezbollah would support ISIS?
        Hezbollah is shia. ISIS doesn't even think shia are real muslims. They are the first people ISIS kills.

        Derpdick you don't even know what you don't know.
        You parade your ignorance like it is genius

        You are truly a modern man. Alt-facts for an alt-idiot.

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday January 29 2017, @01:51PM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday January 29 2017, @01:51PM (#460230)

      Polls are skewed by what the polled believe the poller should hear.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @02:40PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @02:40PM (#460242)

        Oh please. If you've got a better source, then post it.
        And no, pulling shit out of your ass is not a better source.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @08:53AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 29 2017, @08:53AM (#460179)

    I think you're kinda helping me to make my point. The inquisitors were finally put down, of course.

    No, he is not. My God (or "Their God", it's all the same god), you are a complete and total ignoramous! Must be an American! Quick, what is the capital of Romania? OK, yep, American! You know nothing about history, you know nothing about Islam, you know nothing about religion, and you know nothing about politics. I expect your math abilities are on par.

    So tell us, Runaway, who "put down" the Inquisitors? Shirley you know that there is an Office of the Inquisition in the Vatican right up to the present day? Oh, you didn't? OK, stick with me. Did you know that the Catholic Church has meddled in American politics very recently? Just ask yourself, how many Supreme Court Justices are Catholic? What is the percentage of the American population that is Catholic? Did you know that Newt Gingrinch converted to Catholocism? Did you ever wonder why? Do you know that Mussolini was a Catholic, before he was a communist and while he was a Fascist? Did you know that Franco, Fascist Dictator of Spain, was a Catholic with the full support of the Church? And did you know (oh, why do I even keep on asking) that along with the Mormons, the Catholic church was a major backer of Prop. 8 in California (and that Mozilla guy). And of course, the recent march to enslave women was a propaganda event largely paid for by the Catholic Church.

    Now, I would just want to parallel your insane paranoid coward's rant: Christianity is not just a religion! It is a political, cultural, and ideological movement that has its own hierarchy, its own law (Canon Law, look it up!), and does not recognize the rights of nations or individuals (especially women) to rule themselves! Christianity is completely opposed to the principle of liberal democracy, and the freedoms of the citizen and the rights of man! So, I ask again, who took out the Spanish Inquisition? Hmmm?