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From the what-separation-of-powers department:
The Department of Homeland Security has an update on the entry ban:
The Department of Homeland Security will continue to enforce all of President Trump's Executive Orders in a manner that ensures the safety and security of the American people. President Trump's Executive Orders remain in place—prohibited travel will remain prohibited, and the U.S. government retains its right to revoke visas at any time if required for national security or public safety. President Trump's Executive Order affects a minor portion of international travelers, and is a first step towards reestablishing control over America's borders and national security.
The NY Post adds:
The ACLU is getting "multiple reports" that federal customs agents are siding with President Trump — and willfully ignoring a Brooklyn federal judge's demand that travelers from seven Muslim countries not be deported from the nation's airports.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2017, @12:50AM
Why the fuck aren't you pressuring Trump for a blanket ban from *ALL* Muslim countries, instead of just ones that we don't have enough economic ties to make a difference to our bottom line?
Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Pakistan, Turkey, Chechnya. All of those deserve to be on the list. Three of those aren't on the list and coincidentally have Trump business interests in them. At least three of those have been directly involved in aiding and abetting terrorism on US soil (Saudi Arabia), or housing and providing aid to a terrorist leader (Pakistan), or being the country terrorists came from (Chechnya).
All of those are *FAR* greater threats of Islamic terrorism in the US than the 7 currently being banned. So if you truly believe what you just said, I expect to hear yourself and those that follow your beliefs on the subject to be protesting just as loudly as the anti-Ban protesters out in the streets of DC or other major state/federal political centers and making it known that it is not okay to only ban SOME Muslim states while allowing others, especially others who only seem to get a pass because of US commercial interests there.
Own it or GTFO.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2017, @01:11AM
Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt, United Arab Emirates, Azerbaijan.
Here's a map with banned countries in red, and trump countries in yellow. [bloomberg.com]
No overlap. How convenient.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2017, @01:50AM
The wonderful Trump would never do business in a bad country, thus he didn't need to ban any which intersect with his businesses. Discussion solved. Next issue?
(Score: 1) by tftp on Tuesday January 31 2017, @06:57AM
Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that countries in red have some sort of civil war or instability within? Well, Iran is stable, but who is going to be surprised that it was swept into the new axis of evil?
(Score: 2) by zocalo on Tuesday January 31 2017, @10:34AM
That does seem like a reasonable way to draw a line - a somewhat arbitrary one, but a line non-the-less. So why isn't Turkey on the list?
Turkey is a majority Muslim country, had an attempted coup a little over six months ago, have a on-going violent insurgency with elements of their Kurdish populace in the East, suffers repeated and regular attacks from Daesh extemist, has its own Muslim extremists, and President Erdogan is engaged in a a crackdown on pretty much any form of political dissent without any due process; suspects are just detained to await trial, and with many judges also locked up that's essentially arbitrary and indefinite detention. Sounds like it ought to be a shoo-in to me, so, does the US *really* need the use of Incirlik to attack various groups in the Middle East that much, or is it just a case of follow the money to Trump Tower?
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2017, @01:22AM
Same AC here. I agree 100%. I own it.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2017, @01:29AM
If you love the fucking Muslims so much, why don't you move to one of those countries? We don't want you. We don't need you. You love destruction and terror so much, you love these people so much, why don't YOU GTFO and move in with your friends in Mosul? You run your mouth about letting terrorists into the country on your fucking high horse... I hope a terrorist blows up a few of your family members. I wonder what you would think then. Stupid fucking cocksucking prickface idiot moron commie jewfaced retard.