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posted by mrpg on Tuesday January 31 2017, @11:14AM   Printer-friendly
from the god-is-pleased dept.

Not only in America, teaching evolution is under attack. Indeed, future Turkish children will likely not learn about evolution in school, as soL international reports:

İsmet Yılmaz, the Minister of National Education in Turkey on Friday announced the new curriculum draft for school. After the draft is finalized, textbooks will be published based on the new draft to be used starting from 2017-2018 academic year.

The new curriculum draft brings some radical changes:

[...] Evolution Theory is excluded from Biology courses. The related unit named "The Origins of Life and the Evolution" is replaced with "Living Beings and Environment".

This is actually not the first strike against evolution in Turkey:

In 2013, the government had made a regulation, which let the Intelligent Design model to be included in the curriculum besides the Evolution Theory.

Also at Turkish Minute: Gov't removes evolution theory from new school curriculum

Related: What is Turkey's problem with Darwin?


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  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by tisI on Tuesday January 31 2017, @03:18PM

    by tisI (5866) on Tuesday January 31 2017, @03:18PM (#461243)

    In America, our money says "In God We Trust". On the streets we say we are a Christian country.
    Yet everywhere on the streets, in the malls, and at work, all I see godless heathens dragging the Lords name through the dirt and being complete assholes about it all.

    And now all these troll comments.
    Sign of the times?

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by TheGratefulNet on Tuesday January 31 2017, @04:19PM

    by TheGratefulNet (659) on Tuesday January 31 2017, @04:19PM (#461273)

    'in god we trust' came about in the 50's (recently, not 200 yrs ago) when 'we' were afraid of the godless commies.

    this was not the real america speaking; it was an over-reaction and it actually goes AGAINST what america was formed FOR! religious freedom was one of the main reasons listed for the creation of the new world (US). to favor one religion or a series of them was just flat-out wrong, but we did make that mistake and we are still paying for it now (ie, the republicans have gone full retard over the last 20 or so years trying to MAKE this country all xtian).

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    • (Score: 2) by NewNic on Tuesday January 31 2017, @05:43PM

      by NewNic (6420) on Tuesday January 31 2017, @05:43PM (#461325) Journal

      While I would like to believe you are right about this, I don't think you are. The founders talked about religious freedom, but the early colonists didn't come to create a land where there was religious freedom, instead, their goal was much narrower: freedom to practice their own brand of religion.

      I don't think that they cared about other people's religious freedom.

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday January 31 2017, @06:29PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday January 31 2017, @06:29PM (#461351) Journal

        . “The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
        ~1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams

        • (Score: 2) by NewNic on Tuesday January 31 2017, @08:46PM

          by NewNic (6420) on Tuesday January 31 2017, @08:46PM (#461414) Journal

          What part of "early colonists" didn't you understand?

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          • (Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday January 31 2017, @10:51PM

            by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 31 2017, @10:51PM (#461473)

            Also it was one dude's opinion which was wildly disagreed with at the time, used rhetorically in a treaty with Islamic arabs who were operating under this quote from wikipedia:

            It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave;

            People of the book have some protection officially under some interpretations of Islam. The USA not being like the UK or the papal states in Rome, the US isn't technically Christian, so in the treaty we're just rhetorically not BSing the arabs, yo our nation is not christian or islamic just so we're on common ground here about who we claim to be and who you think you are. So no turning around and BSing us that ships from Rhode Island are fair game but Massachusetts are safe or the other way around, no claiming people from R.I. are "people of the book" but people from NYC are not, etc.

            To troll progressives you can point out that this treaty quote is analogous to how Trump saying his moslem ban is constitutional is also the controversial opinion of exactly one dude so imagine in 2500 people thinking Trump said something in 2017 therefore the prog who's being trolled must have agreed with Trump and thats how the USA always has been and always will be interpreted.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 01 2017, @02:23AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 01 2017, @02:23AM (#461524)

              To troll progressives you can point out that this treaty quote is analogous

              No, you can not, you fucking Nazi!

          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday January 31 2017, @11:13PM

            by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Tuesday January 31 2017, @11:13PM (#461477) Homepage
            Wait a sec - you introduce an irrelevancy that does not contradict your parent poster's point, and then you complain when he tries to bring it back to one of the things he was talking about? If you want a thread about the early colonists, start your own.
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      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2017, @07:00PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2017, @07:00PM (#461367)

        There is a serious of PBS documentary called Religion in America if I am not mistaken. It is very informative and you should investigate.

        One of the things that I always remember from it is that the Catholic church was asking for the separation of church and state due to some state's schools being run by other denominations and referring to the pope as the antichrist and the whore of Babylon.

        They forget that part nowadays though.

    • (Score: 2) by dry on Tuesday January 31 2017, @07:10PM

      by dry (223) on Tuesday January 31 2017, @07:10PM (#461374) Journal

      The sibling poster is correct, many American colonies were about being able to practice their religion.
      One of the motivations for the Revolution was the Royal Proclamation of 1763 (made after Canada (Quebec) was made part of the British Empire), which included allowing Catholics to hold office and have various other rights that previously were denied to them.eg the Bill of Rights of 1689 only gave the right to bear arms to Protestants.
      Interestingly I recently read that the first woman to be hung in Massachusetts was a Quaker, hung for preaching. Being a woman, she got 3 chances before being hung, unlike the men in her party who were hung without any chances. Much of the New World was similar, religious colonies that didn't put up with what they considered heresy.
      It was very good luck that the writers of the Constitution were very open minded for their time.

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2017, @05:20PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 31 2017, @05:20PM (#461314)

    "In God We Trust" was added to our money (say as "under God" in the pledge) during the McCarthy Era hysteria when everyone was afraid commies were hiding under their beds.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by bob_super on Tuesday January 31 2017, @07:09PM

      by bob_super (1357) on Tuesday January 31 2017, @07:09PM (#461373)

      Well, after learning from those mistakes, people are now hysterically afraid the Muslim Terrorists are hidden under their beds.

      Buddhist Chinese have reserved the next turn. They benefit from the experience of actually making US beds.

  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 31 2017, @05:27PM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 31 2017, @05:27PM (#461318) Journal

    The God of the Abrahamic religions is, to use a topical example, essentially the bastard buttbaby of Donald Trump and Kim Jong Il with infinite power. That is not something anyone with any actual morals--no, divine command theory does not and indeed *cannot* ground morality--would worship. It may be something we'd try to kill though.

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