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posted by martyb on Wednesday February 01 2017, @04:34PM   Printer-friendly
from the took-a-wrong-path-somewhere dept.

A new LG 5120 × 2880 monitor is causing electronic suffering:

The spiritual successor to Apple's Thunderbolt Display, the LG UltraFine 5K monitor, which only started shipping out from the Apple online store this week, appears to suffer from a major fault: when placed within two metres (6.5ft) of a wireless router, the display starts to flicker; move it really close, and the monitor goes black and becomes unusable. An LG Electronics support person confirmed the issue, saying it "only happens for the 5K monitors we have, not other LG monitors."

If that wasn't bad enough, 9to5Mac's Zac Hall reports that his LG 5K monitor, under the duress of a nearby Wi-Fi router, can freeze the MacBook Pro that it's plugged into, forcing a reboot to bring it back. When he moved the router (an Apple AirPort Extreme) from beside the monitor to another room, everything went back to normal.

A support rep for LG Electronics confirmed that the 5K monitor can be adversely affected by a nearby wireless router and said that the issue doesn't affect any other LG monitors. Hall was asked to place the router "at least 2 metres away" from the monitor and "to let us know" if the problem still persists after that.


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  • (Score: 2) by pnkwarhall on Wednesday February 01 2017, @08:20PM

    by pnkwarhall (4558) on Wednesday February 01 2017, @08:20PM (#461767)

    Of course there's an objective measure of value apart from the perceived value! I don't have the time to argue the SEVERAL points that reveal this POV as pure sophistry, but I'll choose one.

    'Caveat emptor' means it's the buyer's responsibility to find the true value prior to purchase-if he's buying 'hot shit on a plate' for a million bucks, than he's (obviously) being ripped off by the seller. Why is this a "rip-off" if both parties agreed to the transaction? It's, again, obvious that there is some less subjective benchmark being referred to... for instance the going market value of shit.

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Grishnakh on Wednesday February 01 2017, @09:16PM

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday February 01 2017, @09:16PM (#461799)

    As I pointed out, there is a difference between a one-time conning and the ability to consistently sell product at a certain price. The only thing that makes the latter "objective" is that more than 1 customer has to agree to that price, but it's still subjective as you're dealing with human psychology: if you can convince millions of people that your crappy product is worth a small fortune, then that price *is* the "value".

    It's just like I said: something is worth whatever you can get someone to pay for it. If I have a pile of fresh dog shit on a plate and I can walk down the street and easily and reliably sell it to some random person for $10, then that shit really is worth $10, regardless of what you think it's worth. But this doesn't mean that there's some actual objective benchmark; that seems to assume that there's a real use for fresh dog shit out there. While that may be the case, it's much more likely that this is simply human stupidity. There's countless cases of people paying good money for garbage with little to no utility. Just look at any fad, ridiculous fashion trend, etc. People are like sheep; they'll want and buy stuff just because other people have it. There's a clear herd behavior at work. Just because you can get people to spend a lot of money on jeans with holes ripped in them doesn't mean those jeans have objective value; it just means people are stupid and follow trends. Fast-forward a decade or two and now no one will buy those jeans; does that mean human biology has changed, making them non-sensical to wear? Of course not; they were always dumb, but trends and fashions change.