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posted by janrinok on Friday February 03 2017, @11:10AM   Printer-friendly
From BBC Television News:

An attack has occurred this morning when an individual carrying 2 backpacks and possibly weapons approached the Louvre in Paris and was engaged by a soldier who fired 5 shots. The assailant was wounded, as was a soldier during the attack. One report claims that the attacker shouted Islamic slogans during the attack.

1111GMT: A second possible assailant has been arrested. The French Govt have confirmed it is a terrorist attack.

1117GMT: It is confirmed that the first assailant attacked a soldier with a machete before being engaged and wounded.

1215GMT: Latest TV statements. The first assailant attacked a security officer and/or soldier with a machete causing wounds to his arm and face, while shouting "Allahu Akbar". A second soldier then engaged the assailant with rifle fire resulting in the assailant being seriously wounded in the stomach. The first assailant was carrying 2 backpacks but no explosives have been found in them. A search of the area is continuing. A second assailant has been arrested within the last hour a short distance away from the scene of the attack.

The Louvre Museum and the area around it is in lock-down, and the public and local workers are been evacuated from the area. The French Govt are releasing only statements that they can verify and are refusing to speculate any further during media questioning.

takyon: French soldier shoots attacker outside Louvre
Assailant Near Louvre Is Shot by French Soldier
Machete attack on soldier near Louvre was of 'terrorist nature'

 
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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Friday February 03 2017, @02:50PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 03 2017, @02:50PM (#462387) Journal

    I disagree, of course. Gun the animal down like a dog, and let him rot in the street. He isn't fit for a human burial, just let the scavengers consume him. And, if that offends some Muslim sensitivities, well, so be it. Stop acting like animals, and you won't be left out as road kill to be eaten by vermin. Hell, the French can just bring back the gibbet. This guy was wounded - just put him in the cage, and hoist him high, to suffer and die at his own leisure. Yeah, Allahu Akhbar, Mohammed, but you're just maggot food.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Friday February 03 2017, @03:13PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday February 03 2017, @03:13PM (#462402) Journal

    No, I rather think GreatAuntAnesthesia is on the right track with this--treat them like common, ordinary criminals. If you treat them differently, like you're talking about, you make them something to aspire to. Everybody wants to be the virtuous freedom fighter that stands up to evil overlords who shoot down people in the street like dogs. Nobody aspires to be Skippy the Wonder Flunky who shoots up the Circle K. The symbolic dimension makes all the difference.

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    Washington DC delenda est.
    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @07:56PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @07:56PM (#462566)

      > No, I rather think GreatAuntAnesthesia is on the right track with this--treat them like common, ordinary criminals.

      Exactly the way we do all the other terrorists like white nationalists.

      > If you treat them differently, like you're talking about, you make them something to aspire to.

      But you forget that derpaway is the resident daesh collaborator. His goal is exactly the same as theirs - to play them up into an existential threat.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by janrinok on Friday February 03 2017, @03:17PM

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 03 2017, @03:17PM (#462407) Journal

    Reducing oneself to their level doesn't seem like something we should be aiming for.

    • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Friday February 03 2017, @03:27PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 03 2017, @03:27PM (#462414) Journal

      Not exactly reducing ourselves to their level. To a terrorist, you and I are important people. He needs us to make a statement, he needs us as his ticket into paradise, he needs us to convert, he needs us to justify his existence.

      We don't need him. We swat him like the shit eating insect that he is, and let him lie where he falls.

      Unless, of course, he falls near our food or our water - then we sweep him out of the way, can get on with our lives.

      • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by janrinok on Friday February 03 2017, @04:00PM

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday February 03 2017, @04:00PM (#462451) Journal

        I aspire to being better than that, although I accept that I might fail always to do so. I have no sympathy for terrorists, but I refuse to lower myself to treat anyone other than expected under the law.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Friday February 03 2017, @06:44PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday February 03 2017, @06:44PM (#462529) Journal

        Not exactly reducing ourselves to their level.
         
        Correct. It would put us at a lower level. Eliminating due process while proclaiming our love of freedom would also add a healthy dose of hypocrisy to the bill.

      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by charon on Friday February 03 2017, @07:29PM

        by charon (5660) on Friday February 03 2017, @07:29PM (#462547) Journal

        William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!

        Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

        William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

        Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

        From A Man for All Seasons by Robert Bolt.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @04:11PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 03 2017, @04:11PM (#462454)

    ol' Runaway! Quick, some one prep his safe zone, stat!!

    Too late! He's already there!

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Thexalon on Friday February 03 2017, @04:20PM

    by Thexalon (636) on Friday February 03 2017, @04:20PM (#462456)

    That's just plain stupid.

    Whenever you catch a bad guy, what you want is for the bad guy to tell you everything he knows about what he and other bad guys are up to, so you can catch the other bad guys and also thwart any other plots the bad guy might have going on. There are lots of interrogation techniques that work well for that, mostly involving cozying up to the bad guy and the interrogator pretending he's on the bad guys' side (important: torture definitely doesn't work for this purpose).

    If we summarily execute terrorists, then we can't do that. If you say "Wait until they spill the beans, and then brutally execute them", that still doesn't work, because now terrorists aren't going to talk to you knowing full well that to do so would be a short trip to hideous-death-ville.

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    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
  • (Score: 3, Touché) by fritsd on Friday February 03 2017, @07:42PM

    by fritsd (4586) on Friday February 03 2017, @07:42PM (#462555) Journal

    If you'd leave a dead person to rot in front of the Louvre, passersby would complain to the government that these latest risqué avant-garde works of performance art are really going too far.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 04 2017, @04:17AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 04 2017, @04:17AM (#462743)

    If you really want to offend his muslim friends then feed the body to the hogs. Hogs will eat anything.

    • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Saturday February 04 2017, @02:42PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 04 2017, @02:42PM (#462843) Journal

      Almost anything. I've been told that hogs won't eat green peppers. They may turn their noses up at Muslims, too.