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posted by cmn32480 on Monday February 06 2017, @01:43AM   Printer-friendly

In the end of 2015, China had 170.000 of the 173.000 ebuses circulating in the World. That's right, 98% of them were in zooming in The Big Red Giant, which i think says it all about the role of that country on the change happening towards eMobility.

[...] Just focusing on all-electric Buses, sales grew to 115.700 units in 2016, which represents some 20% market share, with Yutong still in the lead, followed by BYD and Nanjing.with the first growing 36% YoY and the second more than 50%.

With this kind of growth and market share, it is expected that China goes all-electric in this category in less than 10 years, maybe five, so it is no wonder that large cities like Shenzen are already envisioning an all-electric 15.000 fleet of Buses...In 2017.

https://ev-sales.blogspot.com/2017/01/china-buses-2016.html


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Monday February 06 2017, @03:58AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 06 2017, @03:58AM (#463285) Journal

    One has to wonder though if the pollution to generate the electricity isn't going to just move the problem since their power plants aren't exactly models of clean energy.

    Wakey-wakey

    Peak coal in China was 2014 [theguardian.com]

    Only six year after US [wikipedia.org] (and this ignoring the trump factor - as an unknown)

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 06 2017, @10:12AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 06 2017, @10:12AM (#463375)

    Maybe China Wakey-wakey?

    "Peak Coal" in China - well, China accounts for about 50% of all coal usage in the WORLD. At current rate of extraction, they will run out of coal by about middle 2030s. So.... either China runs out of coal, or moves away from it. But even if China does move away from coal in next 2 decades, it will be many times faster than the rest of the world out of necessity. It doesn't mean rest of the world moves away from coal. Many places have plans to continue mining until well into 2100!!!

    Other countries are burning more and more coal. See Indonesia or India as examples,

    http://www.worldcoal.org/file_validate.php?file=WCA_Factsheet_Indonesia.pdf [worldcoal.org]
    http://www.worldcoal.org/file_validate.php?file=WCA_Factsheet_India.pdf [worldcoal.org]

    World coal usage is 2x what it was in 1990. And record was just 1 or 2 years ago with newer data not yet available. So.... coal, it's not going away despite of "green" propaganda (propaganda - old fashioned "alt facts"). Nuclear had potential of killing some coal, but "green" lobby killed that in favour of ... well, COAL....

    • (Score: 2) by butthurt on Monday February 06 2017, @08:20PM

      by butthurt (6141) on Monday February 06 2017, @08:20PM (#463617) Journal

      World coal usage is 2x what it was in 1990. And record was just 1 or 2 years ago with newer data not yet available. So.... coal, it's not going away despite of "green" propaganda (propaganda - old fashioned "alt facts").

      An earlier remark, perhaps by the same commenter, said coal consumption was "50% higher than 1990." The industry group cited (the World Coal Association), which in turn cited the IEA, gave figures showing a 72% increase in consumption (to 2014).

      /comments.pl?sid=17789&cid=462055#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
      https://web.archive.org/web/20170206193952/http://www.worldcoal.org/file_validate.php?file=Coal%20Facts%202015.pdf [archive.org]

      The IEA, for its part, has this to say:

      Following more than a decade of aggressive growth, global coal demand has stalled, the International Energy Agency said Friday in its annual coal market report. [...]

      The IEA’s Medium-Term Coal Market Report 2015 slashed its five-year estimate of global coal demand growth by more than 500 million tonnes of coal equivalent (Mtce) in recognition of the tremendous pressures facing coal markets. The revision comes as official preliminary data indicate that a decline in Chinese coal demand occurred in 2014 and is set to accelerate in 2015. A decline in coal consumption in China for two consecutive years would be the first since 1982.

      [...]

      Coal demand in China is sputtering as the Chinese economy gradually shifts to one based more on services and less on energy-intensive industries. New Chinese hydro, nuclear, wind and solar are also significantly curtailing coal power generation, driven not only by energy security and climate concerns but also by efforts to reduce local pollution.

      Given the strong rebalancing of China’s economy, the report also presents an alternate scenario in which Chinese coal demand has already peaked. In this so-called “peak coal scenario”, infrastructure and energy-intensive industries represent a lower share of Chinese GDP than in the report’s base case, while services and high-tech manufacturing gain momentum.

      -- https://www.iea.org/newsroom/news/2015/december/global-coal-demand-stalls-after-more-than-a-decade-of-relentless-growth.html [iea.org]

      Nuclear had potential of killing some coal, but "green" lobby killed that in favour of ... well, COAL....

      Whereabouts? At a guess, this is referring to Japan and Germany. After having an INES level 7 disaster, I'm inclined to give the Japanese somewhat of a pass.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident_rating_of_the_Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster#Assessment [wikipedia.org]
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_consumption#Coal_2 [wikipedia.org]

      As for Germany, their move away from nuclear power appears to have been a response to the same incident (perhaps an over-reaction since the risk of earthquakes and tsunamis, it appears to me, is much lower in Germany). Although both countries do consume a great deal of coal, they also rank second and third (after China and ahead of the USA) in installed solar electric capacity.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_Germany [wikipedia.org]
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_Japan [wikipedia.org]