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posted by on Sunday February 12 2017, @03:18AM   Printer-friendly
from the free-speech-for-all dept.

The fine folks over at The Tennessean bring us this interesting bit of news:

Inspired by a Breitbart News editor whose speeches have spurred protests at colleges across the country, state lawmakers on Thursday touted a bill that they said would protect free speech on Tennessee campuses.

While discussing the bill in a news conference, sponsors Rep. Martin Daniel and Sen. Joey Hensley referenced the protests against controversial conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, who is a senior editor at Breitbart. Violence erupted at a protest against a planned Yiannopoulos speech at the University of California, Berkeley, prompting officials there to cancel the speech. The lawmakers indicated that the violence had hampered the expression of conservative ideas at Berkeley. Similar issues have cropped up in Tennessee, they said.

Daniel, R-Knoxville, called his legislation "the Milo bill," and said it was "designed to implement oversight of administrators' handling of free speech issues."

Hensley, R-Hohenwald, said the bill was specifically tailored to defend students with conservative views that he said had been silenced in the past.

"We've heard stories from many students that are honestly on the conservative side that have those issues stifled in the classroom," Hensley said. "We just want to ensure our public universities allow all types of speech."

Glad to see my state getting this correct even though they can't pull their heads out of their asses about broadband competition.

[Ed. Note: The current bill has no summary on the Tennessee General Assembly site, but it is likely similar or identical to the previous year's version from the same sponsors which died in committee.]


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:03AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:03AM (#465989)

    I have read the article you linked in regards to Milo. I have not found any sort of "wink-wink advocating for violence and harassment". Did you link the wrong article?

    They so utterly lost their shit over it that they actually killed the entire diversity office.

    So-called "diversity offices" are usually focused around diversity of skin color rather than diversity of opinions or the free exchange of ideas. In my opinion, diversity of skin color is neither meaningful nor valuable.
    What kind of diversity office was this one?

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:18AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:18AM (#465999)

    I have read the article you linked in regards to Milo. I have not found any sort of "wink-wink advocating for violence and harassment".

    If you can't see that putting her face up on the giant screen, naming her and then proceeding to call her a man who just wants to follow women into the bathroom is not incitment to violence against her, then you are a motivated simpleton. Trans people get beat [stevewessler.com] up [oregonlive.com] and killed [satiratribune.com] for [nydailynews.com] that [rawstory.com] all [towleroad.com] the [wnep.com] time. [ketv.com]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:21AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:21AM (#466001)

      If you can't see that putting her face up on the giant screen, naming her and then proceeding to call her a man who just wants to follow women into the bathroom is not incitment to violence against her, then you are a motivated simpleton.

      That isn't incitement to violence, no matter how reprehensible and idiotic it is. You need to go farther than that for it to be incitement. If someone responds to the speech in a violent way, that's entirely their own doing.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:31AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:31AM (#466003)

        That isn't incitement to violence,

        incitement [oxforddictionaries.com]
        noun

                [mass noun], [often with infinitive] The action of provoking unlawful behaviour or urging someone to behave unlawfully.
        ————————————————————————————————————————————————

        Keep playing stupid, the only people you are fooling are the people who want to be fooled.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:36AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:36AM (#466004)

          This isn't provoking unlawful behavior unless he actually intended for violence to occur. Do you have evidence that he had such intent?

          • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:43AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:43AM (#466007)

            There was no other reason to identify her by name and image.
            Any other point he could have made could have been made equally as well without that.
            She was not a public figure.

            • (Score: 3, Informative) by Arik on Sunday February 12 2017, @05:15AM

              by Arik (4543) on Sunday February 12 2017, @05:15AM (#466021) Journal
              You're simply and demonstrably wrong, he was very much a public figure already.

              He did indeed sue the university to force his way into the women's facilities, which naturally attracted press coverage, and his face and name were widely published in many places as a result. Milo apparently referred to the student newspaper for it, but he could have also gone to the local tv station ( http://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/uwm-student-says-shes-been-discriminated-against-at-the-klotsche-center ) or a very sympathetic article from a prominent left wing site ( https://thinkprogress.org/at-university-of-wisconsin-milwaukee-trans-students-may-have-finally-won-true-locker-room-access-2e3ddeb156e1 ) or even a less sympathetic writeup from a more conservative site (http://www.dailywire.com/news/5419/man-angry-university-not-letting-him-show-his-junk-amanda-prestigiacomo) for the info, and even if he had chosen not to use the name anyone that was curious could have found it with a single search (or would have already known it.)

              --
              If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
              • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @06:02AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @06:02AM (#466030)

                You're simply and demonstrably wrong, he was very much a public figure already.

                Incorrect.

                Filing a lawsuit and being reported on does not make one a public figure.

                even if he had chosen not to use the name anyone that was curious could have found it with a single search (or would have already known it.

                That's the disingenuousness of a motivated simpleton. The fact that someone who wanted to hunt her down could do it on their own is not the equivalent of deliberately hand-feeding that information to a crowd while inveighing that she is a deviant intent on doing harm.

              • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @06:50AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @06:50AM (#466044)

                he was very much a public figure already.
                ...
                He did indeed sue the university to force his way into the women's facilities
                ...
                his face

                You just couldn't help yourself, could you?

                If anyone thought you were arguing in defense of free speech instead of against a minority you hold in contempt, you just gave yourself away.

                Just admit it — you are happy that she was singled out for harassment. Everything else you've said is just a smokescreen to rationalize that.

                • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @07:26AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @07:26AM (#466051)

                  Yup, welcome to the shit stains that inhabit soylent news. They really don't see their prejudice and bias, they think they are freedom loving fair folk, but they would gladly slam boots on faces if it was socially acceptable. The silver lining of Trump's victory, letting the assholes think their shit is suddenly palatable. Gonna be a long four years, hopefully the jerks get enough feedback from their crazy rantings and realize that "oh shit, maybe we're the problem?"

                  I can dream

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @12:44PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @12:44PM (#466118)

                    Well, shit stain, stop hating on real people so much. Most of the country is sick of your politically correct shit, and the stain it leaves in public places. At least have the courtesy to keep your stained self hidden.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @11:39PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @11:39PM (#466350)

                      Denial only makes your problem worse. The world is moving on from horrible ideologies, except in the middle east where such crap was intentionally implemented by the US in pursuit of cheap oil and world power. So congrats, you are the next homegrown supporter of violence. Where are these PC stains in public spaces? You're full of it, stop listening to the media filling g your head with lies.

                • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @08:45AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @08:45AM (#466065)

                  A man who wishes to be a woman is still a man.

                  • (Score: 4, Funny) by aristarchus on Sunday February 12 2017, @10:48AM

                    by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday February 12 2017, @10:48AM (#466089) Journal

                    A man who wishes to be a woman is still a man.

                    Oh, calm down, you silly clit! The way I heard it, from someone much older and wiser than me, who had heard it from Tiresias himself, is that "When women dress like men, they are after socio-economic power. When men dress like women, they are seeking god." So, a woman who wished to me a man, is still a man? Be clear here, AC! What are you saying!

                • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @12:42PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @12:42PM (#466117)

                  he was very much a public figure already.
                  ...
                  He did indeed sue the university to force his way into the women's facilities
                  ...
                  his face

                  Let it be noted that he has a kind face. It's the kind of face most of us would like to kick. It's the kind of face that some of you would like to fuck. That distinction is what separates the men from the fruitcakes.

                • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Sunday February 12 2017, @02:21PM

                  by Arik (4543) on Sunday February 12 2017, @02:21PM (#466149) Journal
                  You're actually tipping your hand instead, you're that out of touch.

                  You actually think that speaking proper grammatical English is a signal of contempt for minorities. You'll actually argue that with a straight face.

                  You have no idea what my actual attitudes are, you know nothing about my history of actions, and the thing is you're just dead sure you don't need to know. The fact that I have the nerve to speak (in this case, write) proper English is enough right there for you to dehumanize me completely.

                  --
                  If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @02:47PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @02:47PM (#466159)

                    You actually think that speaking proper grammatical English is a signal of contempt for minorities.

                    Keep on digging.
                    Deliberately using incorrect pronouns is literally the opposite of proper english.

                    dehumanize me completely.

                    Wah! You are a hypocrite for judging me for my judgments!

                    • (Score: 2) by Arik on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:01PM

                      by Arik (4543) on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:01PM (#466176) Journal
                      "Deliberately using incorrect pronouns is literally the opposite of proper english."

                      Exactly! Which is why I avoided doing it.

                      "Wah! You are a hypocrite for judging me for my judgments!"

                      You're judging me based on sheer prejudice. You don't know my positions, and you show no interest in learning about them. You needed only one piece of information - that I use English traditionally, rather than mangling it in the way prescribed by your church, therefore I am clearly not a member. I might be much closer to your position than the majority, you don't care, that isn't good enough. I have conspicuously refrained from emitting a specific signal you demand as a sign of orthodoxy, and that's all you needed to condemn me.
                      --
                      If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:15PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:15PM (#466185)

                        I have conspicuously refrained from emitting a specific signal

                        Lol. That's so fucking hilarious that you would even try to claim that.

                        Dude, you lit up the fucking bat-signal.
                        The Frank Miller version of the bat-signal.

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @11:42PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @11:42PM (#466353)

                        So you bait someone into misunderstanding you then cry about it? Ha ha HAAAAAA, what a maroon!

                        • (Score: 2) by Arik on Monday February 13 2017, @12:17AM

                          by Arik (4543) on Monday February 13 2017, @12:17AM (#466371) Journal
                          I didn't bait anyone, they chose to leap to conclusions, which seems to be something they learn at 'church' these days.
                          --
                          If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 13 2017, @07:20AM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 13 2017, @07:20AM (#466500)

                    The fact that I have the nerve to speak (in this case, write) proper English is enough right there for you to dehumanize me completely.

                    Yes, you are a brave boy for using "proper english."
                    A real hero, fighting the good fight!

                    God, do you ever listen to yourself?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @12:39PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @12:39PM (#466116)

              Obviously, then, liberals intend for gunowners to be killed when they post those gunowner's names and addresses on the internet, along with GPS coords superimposed on a map.

              See how that works? What's good for the goose is good for the goose fuckers.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @01:05PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @01:05PM (#466130)

                Obviously, then, liberals intend for gunowners to be killed when they post those gunowner's names and addresses on the internet, along with GPS coords superimposed on a map.

                Absolutely.

                What's good for the goose is good for the goose fuckers.

                Just because you hate them all doesn't make them the same person.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @11:45PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @11:45PM (#466356)

                  Was gonna say...

                  This thread is not actually funny, but I can't help but think about all the people calling for Muslims to condemn the extremists, yet when it comes to fuckers like Milo they get all defensive and lose perspective. Hypocrites hoorah

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 13 2017, @12:23AM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 13 2017, @12:23AM (#466374)

                    What Milo has done (that is, nothing, as far as this thread has shown) is nothing compared to what those "extremists" do.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:42AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:42AM (#466006)

          Are you arguing that his speech was/should be recognized as illegal, or that his speech could be categorized as incitement according to certain definitions of the word?

    • (Score: 2) by Arik on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:39AM

      by Arik (4543) on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:39AM (#466005) Journal
      That's absolute horseshit. He in no way shape or form called for any violence, that was not there in word or in tone.
      --
      If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:44AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @04:44AM (#466009)

        You just have to read his mind to know his intentions, or be able to read the Secret Code. Making such accusations based on such vague, flimsy reasoning is just fine. Twist your head sideways to see The Tower, then you'll reach enlightenment!

      • (Score: 2) by Whoever on Sunday February 12 2017, @06:30AM

        by Whoever (4524) on Sunday February 12 2017, @06:30AM (#466040) Journal

        "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?"

        Do you see an explicit call for violence in that? What happened as a result?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @07:34AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 12 2017, @07:34AM (#466053)

          If anyone acts on the speech by being violent, that's entirely their fault.

    • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Sunday February 12 2017, @12:37PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 12 2017, @12:37PM (#466115) Journal

      Cross dressing dude who demanded to use the women's restroom? And, you call it a "she"? Your gaydar is fubar'd.

    • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Sunday February 12 2017, @05:33PM

      by jmorris (4844) on Sunday February 12 2017, @05:33PM (#466216)

      No, what Milo did was far, far worse than inciting violence, so horrible you can't even speak it. He put him up on the screen to make him an object of ridicule, so everyone in the room could laugh at the mentally challenged 'tard and the evil people who refuse to explain reality to him because they are too busy using his disability as a weapon. Now normally that would be a social faux pas but the fact these people are being used as weapons by the Left means they are unfortunately political actors and once you are in the political arena it is more dangerous to NOT attack them. For if some political actors are immune to criticism, no matter how stupid their positions, they will quickly end up running things. Which is pretty much where we were heading, at warp speed, until The Trumpening.

      If you support, like I do, keeping the mentally disabled out of the rough and tumble of the political world you guys need to stop using them as mascots.