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posted by cmn32480 on Monday February 20 2017, @03:21PM   Printer-friendly
from the spring-has-sprung dept.

The Washington Post reports that the "lower 48" states of the USA are enjoying spring-like weather. It quotes a meteorologist as saying 1495 record high temperatures have been reached during the month of February (as against 10 record lows); among them:

  • Magnum, Okla., hit 99 degrees [Fahrenheit, 37.2° Celsius] on Feb. 11 — tying the state record for hottest winter temperature ever recorded. Yet it occurred two weeks earlier than the record it matched from Feb. 24, 1918, set in the town of Arapaho.
  • Denver hit 80 degrees [Fahrenheit, 26.7° Celsius] Feb. 10 — its warmest February temperature on record dating back to 1872.
  • Norfolk hit 82 degrees [Fahrenheit, 27.8° Celsius] Feb. 12, tying its warmest February temperature on record dating back to 1874.

[Ed Note: it is actually Mangum, OK, not Magnum. The original WaPo article is incorrect.]

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by pe1rxq on Monday February 20 2017, @05:12PM

    by pe1rxq (844) on Monday February 20 2017, @05:12PM (#469325) Homepage

    Even more interesting are the data that they didn't take 150 years ago, yet we know for a fact that today's temps are much higher than they were then. "Oh, mid-Atlantic temperatures are so much higher, everything is dying because of it!" Higher than what, exactly? We don't know what the mid-Atlantic water temperatures were 150 years ago, because no one was measuring the temps.

    Mid atlantic temperatures have been measured for atleast 300 years. There are even maps which accuratly show the gulfstream and its origins from te late 1700s.
    This was usually done during ocean crossings and obviously did not have the accuracy and resolution of modern satellite data.
    150 years ago was the time the more extensive and accurate surveys were already being done and those datasets are still usefull today. (Ofcourse taking differences in methods now and then into account).

    Maybe there are a few more lessons from 1963 that need a bit of freshing up????

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  • (Score: 3, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Monday February 20 2017, @06:15PM

    by aristarchus (2645) on Monday February 20 2017, @06:15PM (#469358) Journal

    Please, go easy on Runaway! The guy never had the opportunity to get much education, and bullshit is the only real skill he has. Besides, he has the same excuse that the President has: he was given this information, by Fox News, just like the information about the Bowling Green Swedish Carnage Massacree. (That sounds like a great name for a rock band?)

          Of course, if you are getting information that is actually not information, because it is not true, we cannot call it "alternative information", we instead call it "disinformation", or more simply, "lies". So this is not history repeating itself, it is only Runaway repeating himself. Again. Oh dear.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Whoever on Monday February 20 2017, @06:44PM

      by Whoever (4524) on Monday February 20 2017, @06:44PM (#469372) Journal

      just like the information about the Bowling Green Swedish Carnage Massacree.

      Don't forget the terror incident in Sweden a couple of days ago.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by gawdonblue on Monday February 20 2017, @09:02PM

        by gawdonblue (412) on Monday February 20 2017, @09:02PM (#469436)

        Did you hear what happened in Sweden? It was terrible.

        • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday February 21 2017, @02:15AM

          by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday February 21 2017, @02:15AM (#469544) Journal

          I hear they called shenanigans.

          Shenanigans!!!

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Monday February 20 2017, @07:19PM

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday February 20 2017, @07:19PM (#469389) Journal

    Mid atlantic temperatures have been measured for atleast 300 years.
     
    Well then, clearly 350 years is required for confidence, then. And if you provide 350, then clearly only 400 will do!

    Recycled god-of-the-gaps argument...

    • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Monday February 20 2017, @10:23PM

      by aristarchus (2645) on Monday February 20 2017, @10:23PM (#469468) Journal

      Well then, clearly 350 years is required for confidence, then. And if you provide 350, then clearly only 400 will do!

      Recycled god-of-the-gaps argument...

      More of a "No true Mid-Atlantic Temperature Data" fallacy, I think.